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Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by timcobb »

idan wrote: post #96
mitchellh wrote: post #26

I know this is ridiculously dramatic, but its the truth: I actually cried writing this blog post (tears hit my keyboard, I'm embarrassed to say). Nobody should cry over a SaaS, of all things. But GitHub has meant so much more to me than that (all laid out in the post). I have an unhealthy relationship with it. Its given me so much and I'm so thankful for it. But, it's not what it used to be. I don't know. We've been…

Hi there! Longtime fan and hubber here. It's okay to have emotions. I have similar emotions. I'm GitHub User 22723 which is effectively the same as you (considering there's ~180m GH accounts nowadays) My version of your post reads differently: "GitHub only gets better if people who give a shit stick around to make it better" Walking away would be easy. I felt that way when I left Heroku ~six years ago. I left that jo…

Github is Microsoft, who even cares? How can ppl be so caught up in a brand name? Microsoft doesn't care about you, why do you care about Microsoft? Things always change, just move on when the time is right.

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by microflash »

eiiot wrote: post #172

This seems like a great opportunity for new platforms who are rethinking the OSS space to finally gain the traction they need to be effective. For a collaborative platform, quantity is key, and I am hopeful that someone who is interested in advancing the software space will become the new go-to. This isn't to say that GitHub hasn't been innovating, but at least from my perspective, the way we've used git for the past…

I’d love see Tangled succeed because it strikes a good balance of UX and features. Sadly, there’s no clear pricing story around managed solution. They are also VC funded so they can follow the “journey of VC backed org” anytime.

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by jospeh554 »

timcobb wrote: post #661
idan wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi there! Longtime fan and hubber here. It's okay to have emotions. I have similar emotions. I'm GitHub User 22723 which is effectively the same as you (considering there's ~180m GH accounts nowadays) My version of your post reads differently: "GitHub only gets better if people who give a shit stick around to make it better" Walking away would be easy. I felt that way when I left Heroku ~six years ago. I left that jo…

Github is Microsoft, who even cares? How can ppl be so caught up in a brand name? Microsoft doesn't care about you, why do you care about Microsoft? Things always change, just move on when the time is right.

And it's just a host of git, you can just jump platforms...

This is like crying that your favourite IRC network goes, then you just jump onto OFTC

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by fragmede »

Ringz wrote: post #652
devin wrote: post #129

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If anyone reading this is curious of their own, you can go to https://api.github.com/users/YOUR_USERNAME_HERE and fetch it. My ID is just over 10,000. Crazy to think of the journey that I've had in computing since I signed up for GitHub.

Around 40000 and a real name with 4 digits. Thought I was late.

In the 40k range too. I was too cheap at the time to pay for anything or else I would have signed up earlier.

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by jospeh554 »

injidup wrote: post #633
mylons wrote: post #332

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github hasn't absorbed agentic coding, though. agentic coding has absorbed it, and as a result it's quality is suffering. the thing about github that is so maddening is linus gave us the secret with git itself. then we reinvented centralized source control using git and called it github, and here we are.

Decentralized version control only works if there is some way to find and access those distributed repositories. For many reasons and no matter the tech there is always a drift towards having a centralized registry so that the degrees of separation for individual actors is minimised. Be that a search engine or code forge or social network. For *most* users, fully distributed and disconnected is a bug not a feature.

I don't miss the days when every project had it's own SVN server....

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by suryao »

vadepaysa wrote: post #589

What is confusing to me, is as a business I would happily pay GitHub for many many features that I pay others for. Maybe MS thinks its just a billion here, billion there, but isn't it so easy to capture these? 1. faster more configureable action runtimes so I can get faster builds 2. usable merge queues because the github one is a joke 3. some reasonable CI management and workflow debugging features

Founder of WarpBuild here: we provide faster runners (also cheaper), and have some niceties around debugging workflows like ssh-ing into them, observability etc.

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Post by ozgrakkurt »

JuniperMesos wrote: post #36

I can appreciate Hashimoto's genuine feelings about Github, and the world of open-source software development that it opened for him and that he spent a significant chunk of his life participating in. On the other hand, I can't help but think that some of this heartbreak would have been avoidable, if only he possessed more of the Richard-Stallman-esque attitude that non-free software is inherently suspect and unethic…

This is orthogonal imo. There are plenty of services that work really well that are closed source

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by 0xbadcafebee »

icy wrote: post #651
0xbadcafebee wrote: post #570

It was four years ago that GitHub had major enough outages with their database that they had to issue a press release ( https://github.blog/news-insights/company-news/an-update-on-... ). Five months ago I was actually still recommending GitHub. Then a month ago I left the platform, because I couldn't get shit done anymore. The alternatives aren't great. If any VCs wanna send a couple hundred grand my way, I'd be will…

We did raise $4.5M recently to build exactly this: https://tangled.org

edit if any VCs wanna give me millions of dollars to start a GitHub alternative, I might be willing to maybe consider it possibly

Re: Ghostty is leaving GitHub

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Post by psychoslave »

DrammBA wrote: post #612
psychoslave wrote: post #435

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>The sentiment is shared, and github is not the only service making me feel like that, it feels like everything on the web is more flimsy and low quality nowadays. Constant outages, bugs, UI papercuts, incomplete features, what in the world is going on? Have you ever tried to run anything from the 80/90s era? Segfault everywhere, "fatal error was successful", kernel panic, BSOD, screen freeze for any reason and its o…

> Have you ever tried to run anything from the 80/90s era? I take it you're agreeing with the sentiment since you had to go back 40-50 years to make your point.

Yes somehow, in a the sense that there are always things that we can observe as annoying when the representation of a situation where these issues are not present is easy to fantasize. But making actually disappear these annoyances is the hard part, plus the new situation have great chances to be bound to different annoyances that phantasms didn't anticipate. So the NP hard problem is being critique of our anticipations to try to avoid paths to bigger troubles, and keep steady effort on waking the path all while also paying attention to current sensory feedbacks of the situation on the road.
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