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Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by Gormo »

lxgr wrote: post #490
Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #84

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ProtonVPN with bitcoin which you get from a monero swap is a good idea for complete privacy if you want port forwarding. MullvadVPN is also another great one. I have heard some good things about AirVPN, but I can absolutely attest for mullvad and to a degree ProtonVPN (Just with Proton, depending upon your threat model, do make the necessary precautions like buying with monero for example) There are others, but mostl…

How do you square "complete privacy" with the fact that you're authenticating to these VPNs with a persistent username or other credential and are then sending traffic through them, both from an IP address that might identify you, and to services that you authenticate against? Best case, the VPN learns your residential IP and the names of every HTTPS host you connect to (if not your entire DNS traffic as well); worst…

> How do you square "complete privacy" with the fact that you're authenticating to these VPNs with a persistent username or other credential and are then sending traffic through them, both from an IP address that might identify you, and to services that you authenticate against?

IIRC, Mullvad allows anonymous accounts, allows payment in cash and via other methods that don't link PII to the transaction, and claims not to log inbound connections.

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by arendtio »

MyNameIsNickT wrote: post #49

Hey! I'm Nick, and I work on Integrity at OpenAI. These checks are part of how we protect our first-party products from abuse like bots, scraping, fraud, and other attempts to misuse the platform. A big reason we invest in this is because we want to keep free and logged-out access available for more users. My team’s goal is to help make sure the limited GPU resources are going to real users. We also keep a very close…

Do you do those checks only for users without accounts or also for those with accounts?

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Post by ImPostingOnHN »

lmz wrote: post #646
ImPostingOnHN wrote: post #615

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genociding people to take their land within their borders is generally frowned upon today

If only they were better at border control, maybe they wouldn't all get killed off.

yes, generally it is frowned upon today to genocide people and take their land within their borders

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by MarioMan »

deltoidmaximus wrote: post #535
MarioMan wrote: post #30

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I assume your concern with GPU passthrough is that each VM needs a whole GPU? You can use GPU-PV to split your GPU between VM instances. Then the main bottleneck becomes how thin you split out your VRAM. More info here: https://web.archive.org/web/20231107182321/https://mu0.cc/20... https://youtu.be/XLLcc29EZ_8?t=570 https://github.com/jamesstringer90/Easy-GPU-PV

Wouldn't virtualbox or vmware's paravirtual GPUs be a better fit for this use case? Unfortunately the offerings with qemu/libvirt still lag vmwares by a lot.

I know those offer virtual GPUs, but I am unfamiliar with any paravirtual GPU offerings from VMWare or VirtualBox. The virtual GPUs are much more limited in performance and graphics API support.

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by Aerroon »

butlike wrote: post #610
Aerroon wrote: post #495

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What mess are you talking about? The existence of LLMs? I think it's pretty neat that I can now get answers to questions I have. This is something I couldn't have done before, because people very often don't have the patience to answer questions. Even Google ended up in loops of "just use Google" or "closed. This is a duplicate of X, but X doesn't actually answer the question" or references to dead links. Are there d…

It's just repackaged Google results masquerading as an 'answer.' PageRank pulled results and displayed the first 10 relevant links and the LLM pulls tokens and displays the first relevant tokens to the query. Just prompt it.

1. LLMs can translate text far better than any previous machine translation system. They can even do so for relatively small languages that typically had poor translation support. We all remember how funny text would get when you did English -> Japanese -> English. With LLMs you can do that (and even use a different LLM for the second step) and the texts remain very close.

2. Audio-input capable LLMs can transcribe audio far better than any previous system I've used. They easily understood my speech without problems. Youtube's old closed captioning system want anywhere close to as good and Microsoft's was unusable for me. LLMs have no such problems (makes me wonder if my speech patterns are in the training data since I've made a lot of YouTube videos and that's why they work so well for me).

3. You can feed LLMs local files (and run the LLM locally). Even if it is "just" pagerank, it's local pagerank now.

4. I can ask an LLM questions and then clarify what I wanted in natural language. You can't really refine a Google search in such a way. Trying to explain a Google search with more details usually doesn't help.

5. Iye mkx kcu kx VVW dy nomszrob dohd. Qyyqvo nyocx'd ny drkd pyb iye. - Google won't tell you what this means without you knowing what it is.

LLMs aren't magic, but I think they can do a whole bunch of things we couldn't really do before. Or at least we couldn't have a machine do those things well.

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Post by maplethorpe »

tedsanders wrote: post #377
littlestymaar wrote: post #333

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Yeah, they know it's bad, they just don't think the rules apply to them.

For what it's worth, the big AI companies do have opt out mechanisms for scraping and search. OpenAI documents how to opt out of scraping here: https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/bots Anthropic documents how to opt out of scraping here: https://privacy.claude.com/en/articles/8896518-does-anthropi... I'm not sure if Gemini lets you opt out without also delisting you from Google search rankings.

Question: if I disallow all of OpenAI's crawlers, do they detect this and retroactively filter out all of my data from other corpuses, such as CommonCrawl?

The fact is my data exists in corpuses used by OpenAI before I was even aware anyone was scraping it. I'm wondering what can be done about that, if anything.

Re: ChatGPT won't let you type until Cloudflare reads your React state

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Post by DrewADesign »

subscribed wrote: post #556
tedsanders wrote: post #374

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It's documented here: https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/bots

- which one is to stop you from hammering small servers with hundreds simultaneous connections? - why don't you just respect existing robots.txt that apply to you already? - does every LLM scraper seriously think the onus to opt out from the EVERY SINGLE SCRAPER is on the webmasters/owners?

>* - why don't you just respect existing robots.txt that apply to you already?*

>* - does every LLM scraper seriously think the onus to opt out from the EVERY SINGLE SCRAPER is on the webmasters/owners?*

I see value in asking explicitly, but let’s be real here: you know the answers. They feel entitled to vacuum up everything visible, any way they feel like, for some ratio of profit to thinking they’re reshaping humanity for the better. The opt-outs are ceremonial procedures to convince people (including themselves,) that people are actually volunteering this data. They don’t give a shit about you, your creative output, you life’s work, your server performance and bandwidth, or anything else beyond stuffing the great data pig.

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