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The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Post by tim333 »

Bender wrote: post #555
adverbly wrote: post #341

Well hopefully this is short, minimally lethal, and leads to regime change for all those involved.

Well hopefully this is short, minimally lethal, and leads to regime change for all those involved. That would be ideal but unfortunately not likely. Nobody will like this comment but US ships are sitting ducks. They have minimal ammo per the pentagon and no oilers. No oilers and low ammo means no prolonged conflict. Only two of the ships are nuclear powered not counting submarines. Most of Iran's military and weapons…

The US military has seldom had problems with the blowing up the enemy bit. It's providing peace and stability after that happens where they tend to run into problems.

Re: The United States and Israel have launched a major attack on Iran

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Post by lopatamd »

coffinbirth wrote: post #494

> Iranian media now report 40 killed and 48 students injured following the strike on a girls’ elementary school in Minab, as rescue and recovery efforts continue. Congrats America!

You really believe that news that comes from Iran media at this point?

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Post by tim333 »

markus_zhang wrote: post #633
adverbly wrote: post #341

Well hopefully this is short, minimally lethal, and leads to regime change for all those involved.

You can’t be short, minimal lethal AND regime change. Gotta be pretty bloody to make that happen.

Unless like Venezuela. Or like 1953 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9ta...

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Post by ozgrakkurt »

Rover222 wrote: post #622

Iranians are celebrating, btw. This is what they have been dreaming of. This is their chance to finally take their country back, and I think they'll do it. I can't think of a better use of US military power in the world than to take out this terrible regime and let the Iranians do the rest. This isn't Iraq or Venezuela. People saying that we can't bomb our way into regime change apparently didn't follow the protests…

The news of bombs falling on schools must be really exhilarating to people. Especially for the ones that have children! Finally they have a chance to throw away their government and replace it with a military junta

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Post by axus »

mytailorisrich wrote: post #642
epolanski wrote: post #351

The president of peace btw. I'm baffled at the lack of calls to boycott the Fifa world cup in US. And at the double standards applied to Russians and Israelis in their wars of aggression. I guess Israel can play the "October 7th" card at least which was an insane horror.

Look up what the Iranian regime has done to his people and to others, including US and European countries, since 1979 and you'll understand that the only reason US allies are cautious and not fully behind this campaign is that toppling the regime means high uncertainty as to what would replace it...

I know some people weren't alive then, but the invasion of Iraq started off pretty good for the US... Sort of how Russia imagined it's march on Kiev would go (!3) 4 years ago.

What replaced Sadaam was the US, and that went horribly for everyone.

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Post by BoredPositron »

reliabilityguy wrote: post #615
sega_sai wrote: post #363

The take home message from this is that the only way for any country to be secure is to have nuclear weapons.

Israel has nuclear weapons. Did it keep them safe?

Well, proximity is a factor...

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Post by readitalready »

epolanski wrote: post #351

The president of peace btw. I'm baffled at the lack of calls to boycott the Fifa world cup in US. And at the double standards applied to Russians and Israelis in their wars of aggression. I guess Israel can play the "October 7th" card at least which was an insane horror.

The war started in 1948 by Europeans attempting to attack and invade Palestine to grab their land to build their mediterranean resort homes. The war never stopped. There was no surrender documents signed. The foreign invaders have always been in the state of war. It's why their colonial outposts are required to have bomb shelters.

Not sure why you would consider October 7 an "insane horror" when the foreign invaders literally burned children alive in 1948 by throwing them into ovens, as happened in the Deir Yassin massacre. Or the rape camps of Tantura. There were 15,000 innocent civilians killed by the invaders when they started this war.

I still can't believe we have to fight Israel's war for them. First the Iraq war and now the Iran war.

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