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Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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> Zionism is a racist project from one ethnicity against other Wait till you learn about the people they are fighting....

So?

> So?

I'm pointing out how laughably wrong your argument is when 20% of Israeli citizens are arabs while Palestinian territory is 100% jew free now that they got the last hostage out.

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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> The oppressors and the victim are clear in the Israel - Palestine conflict Only if you zoom in and focus on one tiny sliver. If you look at the bigger picture, Israel is surrounded by dozens of countries 100s of times its size, that have all been ethnically cleansed of Jews, many of them in different stages of open or proxy war with Israel, militarily or politically.

Unlike the west, the Arabs or Persians have never nurtured any hatred of Jews till the British (and later the Americans) forcefully backed the creation of a Jewish state in the middle-east. Even today, muslims around the world don't give a damn about Jews or antisemitism unless it is in the context of Palestinians. This is in stark contrast to the christian west, which still harbours a lot of antisemitism and is the…

Today, Jews are denied entry to many Muslim countries - not just Israelis, anyone who looks Jewish.

The excuse that “some other people of this religion did something bad” does not justify hating and ethnically cleansing everyone who shares that religion.

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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I really don’t understand why in the West there is nobody in the streets to protest but there was so many people for Palestine… Where are the people?

There's nothing western governments can do to stop this. There are no demands western people are making to their western governments. While for Palestine, people want our governments to stop giving bombs to the attackers.

Iran gave the weapons to the attackers.

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Iran and North Korea are evidence that with modern technology, and a ruthless enough autocracy, there is possibly no way out from under it. Technological progress only makes this problem worse. It should highlight the urgency for anybody who loves freedom, human rights, and democracy, to fight the swing towards authoritarianism in the 'free world', before there is no way back.

> with modern technology, and a ruthless enough autocracy, there is possibly no way out from under it. Technological progress only makes this problem worse. US may not have autocrats, but it does have ruthless enforcers of "law and order" with access to advanced weapons. Its probably safe to say thst whatever the stated reason is for the 2nd amendment, it is going to be difficult or impossible to meet its objective i…

Yes, there are advanced weapons. 2nd amendment folks are "outgunned," but it's still an important deterrent, because it makes these kinds of massacres more costly. If the government is hunting these people down, and they have nothing left to lose, they might just take a few with them if they're armed.

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post #663

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There's nothing western governments can do to stop this. There are no demands western people are making to their western governments. While for Palestine, people want our governments to stop giving bombs to the attackers.

Iran gave the weapons to the attackers.

I'm pretty sure Iran and Israel are enemies. Israel picked a fight with every single country in the region, to my knowledge, except for the other USA allies.

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Most Western governments fund Israel. The US funds it the most.

Where’s the data to support your extraordinary claim?

You could start with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_supplying_ar...

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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It seems protesting a dictatorship, of whatever kind, is pointless and dangerous. Meaning, the people should be able to defend themselves against the violence directed to them.

> It seems protesting a dictatorship, of whatever kind, is pointless and dangerous. Dangerous, probably but they can't stop us all. Pointless? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Revolution , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolution .

I was trying to SUBTLY IMPLY they should be armed against the regime. Also, that they should do something different than protesting. While protesting, people become targets.

I suppose subtlety doesn't work with you.

A fighter against the regime who is alive is more valuable than the corpse of a protestor. That's simply logistics, you fake Cthulhu.

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If you look at the even bigger picture, it was Israel that decided to pick fights with all those countries.

Those countries literally attacked Israel on the day it became a state, and many times thereafter. Israel is definitely not perfect, but their neighbors have been trying to wipe them out for no good reason for a long time.

What was the process that made Israel a state? What was there before Israeli state was? Who were the allies of that country?

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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> The oppressors and the victim are clear in the Israel - Palestine conflict Only if you zoom in and focus on one tiny sliver. If you look at the bigger picture, Israel is surrounded by dozens of countries 100s of times its size, that have all been ethnically cleansed of Jews, many of them in different stages of open or proxy war with Israel, militarily or politically.

Unlike the west, the Arabs or Persians have never nurtured any hatred of Jews till the British (and later the Americans) forcefully backed the creation of a Jewish state in the middle-east. Even today, muslims around the world don't give a damn about Jews or antisemitism unless it is in the context of Palestinians. This is in stark contrast to the christian west, which still harbours a lot of antisemitism and is the…

This is not true, Jews, like many other groups, have been oppressed and humiliated by the Islamic Arab world for well over a thousand years. I truly can not believe you can say this with a straight face if you have spent any amout of time in Arabic speaking circles. The disgust towards Jewish people is open and constant, and I am not talking about attitudes towards zionism.

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Is "iranintl" the "iranian" equivalent of all the garbage "ukraineintl" propaganda sites? Why is dang and hn allowing this garbage to stay up on the frontpage for days?

And I wonder why you’re allowed here.

> the free speech crowd when you disagree with the US state department
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