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Re: Pricing Changes for GitHub Actions

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Post by ghqqwwee »

wiml wrote: post #571
no_wizard wrote: post #304

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The exodus from GitHub has not begun, as far as I can tell. They seem to care much less about free users than in the past but businesses still flock to it. GitLab is the only other platform I’ve seen in the workplace of anywhere I worked, with the exception of a big tech company I worked at. They had both GitHub enterprise and an internally maintained platform which was being phased out. if I recall correctly it base…

I've seen a small but increasing trickle of open source projects leaving github for free(libre) alternatives lately. It's not a stampede but I'd say the exodus is on its way. The considerations for commercial users leaving github are probably pretty different, so perhaps they'll stay.

Github, i.e. MSFT will of course adjust their offer if they would start seeing an significant exodus. They could afford being a loss leader indefinitely.

There’s also a large bunch of projects that will never leave, some of which ms have influence over. I mean, some high profile open source projects hasn’t even left source forge yet, even though it has been malware infested shithole for decades.

Re: Pricing Changes for GitHub Actions

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Post by wraptile »

There are several features that are only available if you self host github runners like this concurrency issue[1] that has been open for 3 years with the only solution being to use self hosted runners. So you'd expect at least a new product release that fixes these issues before they start rug pulling people.

1 - https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/32376

Re: Pricing Changes for GitHub Actions

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Post by ghqqwwee »

aetherspawn wrote: post #649
bikelang wrote: post #642

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Just curious - what do you think the current best git platforms are?

Azure DevOps is the gold standard for Pipelines.

AD is just sourcesafe/tfs/vsts with rebranding, each time trying to get rid of the bad reputation in developer circles.

Re: Pricing Changes for GitHub Actions

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Post by metaphor »

deepsun wrote: post #569
ukd1 wrote: post #557

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Gitea. Gitlab (ish?).

GitLab actually implemented Actions first back in the day (called CI/CD). I remember GitHub was following their lead.

Which is funny reading how TFA tries to feign ignorance:

> When we shipped Actions in 2018, we had no idea how popular it would become.

Re: Pricing Changes for GitHub Actions

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Post by debarshri »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #654
throwaway150 wrote: post #455

It is us, developers, who convinced our management to purchase GitHub Enterprise to be our forge. We didn't pay any heed to the values of software freedom. A closed source, proprietary software had good features. We saw that and convinced our management to purchase it. Never mind what cost it would impose in the future when the good software gets bad owners. Never mind that there were alternatives that were inferior…

> learn from our mistakes and convince our teams and management to use community-maintained, libre alternatives Every company I've been at that tried to self-host something like GitLab, later moved to GitHub. Nobody in business cares if it's open source/free software. They care about managed hosting, centralized services, invoicing, etc. DIY is great for hobbyists and the cash-strapped.

This is the irony of software engineering. This is how a lot of bad software gets written too.

Re: Pricing Changes for GitHub Actions

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Post by carlmr »

justsid wrote: post #588
ukd1 wrote: post #557

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Gitea. Gitlab (ish?).

Gitea scales really badly with large repos in my experience. Gitlab works a lot better mostly because you can just throw more hardware at it. This is with a pretty large git repo and a lot of daily commits.

>Gitea scales really badly with large repos in my experience.

Isn't it written in this super scaling language that everybody says scales super well?

What is the problem with it?

Re: Pricing Changes for GitHub Actions

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Post by shawabawa3 »

narrator wrote: post #657
bikelang wrote: post #642

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Just curious - what do you think the current best git platforms are?

What ever happened to Hudson/Jenkins? That was the full featured CI/CD solution before github actions.

I'm not at all a fan of GitHub actions, but come on, Hudson/Jenkins was a nightmare world, GitHub actions is a million times better

Re: Pricing Changes for GitHub Actions

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Post by robot-wrangler »

narrator wrote: post #657
bikelang wrote: post #642

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Just curious - what do you think the current best git platforms are?

What ever happened to Hudson/Jenkins? That was the full featured CI/CD solution before github actions.

That also is/was awful. But it's just another platform like GHA, and the solution to this kind of thing is always the same, should not be surprising, and is boring in the good way. Write automation so that it's not tightly coupled to the platform on the backend. If you can't migrate between platforms then you're eventually going to be unhappy.

If someone is forcing you towards high stakes tight-coupling with no thought whatsoever towards the lock-in, you should get it in writing that "we at ${org} are fully committed to ${vendor} with ${platform}, on ${cloud} using ${tech} come what may, now and forever" and lots of sign off so that everyone knows who to blame when this is inevitably wrong.

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