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Re: GPT-5.2

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Post by hexnuts »

solarkraft wrote: post #306
tenpoundhammer wrote: post #295

I have been using chatGPT a ton over the last months and paying the subscription. Used it for coding, news, stock analysis, daily problems, and a whatever I could think of. I decided to give Gemini a go when version three came out to great reviews. Gemini handles every single one of my uses cases much better and consistently gives better answers. This is especially true for situations were searching the web for curre…

> Only downsides are in the polish department What an understatement. It has me thinking „man, fuck this“ on the daily. Just today it spontaneously lost an entire 20-30 minutes long thread and it was far from the first time. It basically does it any time you interrupt it in any way. It’s straight up data loss. It’s kind of a typical Google product in that it feels more like a tech demo than a product. It has theoreti…

You may be interested in tools like OpenMemory

Re: GPT-5.2

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Post by wahnfrieden »

rapind wrote: post #614
deepGem wrote: post #568

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There is no competing product for GPT Voice. Hands down. I have tried Claude, Gemini - they don't even comes close. But voice is not a huge traffic funnel. Text is. And the verdict is more or less unanimous at this time. Gemini 3.0 has outdone ChatGPT. I unsubscribed from GPT plus today. I was a happy camper until the last month when I started noticing deplorable bugs. 1. The conversation contexts are getting intertw…

I found the gemini cli extremely lacking and even frustrating. Why google would choose node… Codex is decent and seemed to be improving (being written in rust helps). Claude code is still the king, but my god they have server and throttling issues. Mixed bag wherever you go. As model progress slows / flatlines (already has?) I’m sure we’ll see a lot more focus and polish on the interfaces.

Codex is king

Re: GPT-5.2

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KronisLV wrote: post #458
solarkraft wrote: post #306

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> Only downsides are in the polish department What an understatement. It has me thinking „man, fuck this“ on the daily. Just today it spontaneously lost an entire 20-30 minutes long thread and it was far from the first time. It basically does it any time you interrupt it in any way. It’s straight up data loss. It’s kind of a typical Google product in that it feels more like a tech demo than a product. It has theoreti…

> It has me thinking „man, fuck this“ on the daily. That's sometimes me with the CLI. I can't use the Gemini CLI right now on Windows (in the Terminal app), because trying to copy in multiple lines of text for some reason submits them separately and it just breaks the whole thing. OpenCode had the same issue but even worse, it quite after the first line or something and copied the text line by line into the shell , t…

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Re: GPT-5.2

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Post by a_victorp »

tenpoundhammer wrote: post #295

I have been using chatGPT a ton over the last months and paying the subscription. Used it for coding, news, stock analysis, daily problems, and a whatever I could think of. I decided to give Gemini a go when version three came out to great reviews. Gemini handles every single one of my uses cases much better and consistently gives better answers. This is especially true for situations were searching the web for curre…

I see a post like this every time there are news about ChatGPT or OpenAI. I'm probably being paranoid but I keep thinking that it looks like bots or paid advertisement for Gemini

Re: GPT-5.2

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Post by gessha »

astrange wrote: post #547
gessha wrote: post #95

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Because it will take thousands of underpaid researchers random searching through solution space to get to the next improvement, not 2-3 companies pressed to monetize and enshittify their product before money runs out. That and winning more hardware lotteries.

Underpaid? OpenAI!? It's pretty good I think. https://www.levels.fyi/companies/openai/salaries/software-en...

I’m talking about grad students, not OpenAI researchers.

Re: GPT-5.2

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Post by Workaccount2 »

holtkam2 wrote: post #551
onraglanroad wrote: post #333

I suppose this is as good a place as any to mention this. I've now met two different devs who complained about the weird responses from their LLM of choice, and it turned out they were using a single session for everything. From recipes for the night, presents for the wife and then into programming issues the next day. Don't do that. The whole context is sent on queries to the LLM, so start a new chat for each topic.…

I know I sound like a snob but I’ve had many moments with Gen AI tools over the years that made me wonder: I wonder what these tools are like for someone who doesn’t know how LLMs work under the hood? It’s probably completely bizarre? Apps like Cursor or ChatGPT would be incomprehensible to me as a user, I feel.

Using my parents as a reference, they just thought it was neat when I showed them GPT-4 years ago. My jaw was on the floor for weeks, but most regular folks I showed had a pretty "oh thats kinda neat" response.

Technology is already so insane and advanced that most people just take it as magic inside boxes, so nothing is surprising anymore. It's all equally incomprehensible already.

Re: GPT-5.2

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Post by rjzzleep »

gcr wrote: post #531
sundarurfriend wrote: post #363

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ChatGPT web UI was also like this for the longest time, until a few months ago: all sorts of random UI bugs leading either to data loss or misleading UI state. Interrupting still is very flaky there too. And on the mobile app, if you move away from the app while it's taking time to think, its state would somehow desync from the actual backend thinking state, and get stuck randomly; sometimes restarting the app fixes…

i basically can't use the ChatGPT app on the subway for these reasons. the moment the websocket connection drops, i have to edit my last message and resubmit it unchanged. it's like the client, not the server, is responsible for writing to my conversation history or something

I get that the web versions are free, but if you can afford API access, I always recommend using Msty for everything. It's a much better experience.

https://msty.ai/

Re: GPT-5.2

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Post by wahnfrieden »

int_19h wrote: post #519
plaidfuji wrote: post #492

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It is annoying though, when you start a new chat for each topic you tend to have to re-write context a lot. I use Gemini 3, which I understand doesn’t have as good of a memory system as OpenAI. Even on single-file programming stuff, after a few rounds of iteration I tend to get to its context limit (the thinking model). Either because the answers degrade or it just throws the “oops something went wrong” error. Ok, ti…

Agentic IDEs/extensions usually continue the conversation until the context gets close to 80% full, then do the compacting. With both Codex and Claude Code you can actually observe that happening. That said I find that in practice, Codex performance degrades significantly long before it comes to the point of automated compaction - and AFAIK there's no way to trigger it manually. Claude, on the other hand, has a comma…

Codex has `/compact`

Re: GPT-5.2

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Post by wahnfrieden »

dudeinhawaii wrote: post #467
freedomben wrote: post #443

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I haven't done a ton of testing due to cost, but so far I've actually gotten worse results with xhigh than high with gpt-5.1-codex-max. Made me wonder if it was somehow a PEBKAC error. Have you done much comparison between high and xhigh?

This is one of those areas where I think it's about the complexity of the task. What I mean is, if you set codex to xhigh by default, you're wasting compute. IF you're setting it at xhigh when troubleshooting a complex memory bug or something, you're presumably more likely to get a quality response. I think in general, medium ends up being the best all-purpose setting while high+ are good for single task deep-drive.…

You should also be making handoffs to/from Pro

Re: GPT-5.2

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Post by petesergeant »

flkiwi wrote: post #401

I gave up my OpenAI subscription a few days ago in favor of Claude. My quality of life (and quality of results) has gone up substantially. Several of our tools at work have GPT-5x as their backend model, and it is incredible how frustrating they are to use, how predictable their AI-isms are, and how inconsistent their output is. OpenAI is going to have to do a lot more than an incremental update to convince me they h…

I have found Codex to be a phenomenal code-review tool, fwiw. Shitty at writing code, _great_ at reviewing it.
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