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Microsoft has urged its employees on H-1B and H-4 visas to return immediately

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Post by skippyboxedhero »

cyberax wrote: post #551
skippyboxedhero wrote: post #401

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A functioning bureaucracy is the death knell of ordered society.

Somalia is the best place on Early, then?

The government is the economy in Somalia. There is no other economy. This is the case in most societies that are dedicated towards war...how else would you fund the war? You think militant groups in Somalia are IPOing on the NYSE? Companies build things based on a mutually advantageous trade, no-one wins from war so the only possible cause is government and politics.

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Post by cs_throwaway »

insane_dreamer wrote: post #640
cs_throwaway wrote: post #271

I think a lot of people arguing about the H1B visa are talking past each other. - There is no doubt a large volume of abuse by tech consulting companies. It's likely even worse than it looks, because the H1Bs in the U.S. are to support even larger teams offshore. I don't understand why we can't just blacklist these companies. - Some of medium-skill hires, e.g., did a 2 year MS degree from random university in the U.S…

You can do J1 -> O-1 -> EB-1/2 the legal fees are not $40k, more like $5-10k (5 years ago)

I was not accurate in my previous post. The O-1 isn’t on an academic’s radar because they are not subject to H1B caps. So might as well do an H1B with minimal effort.

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Post by stogot »

8note wrote: post #265
stogot wrote: post #232

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Which is also why it is a Republic and not a democracy. I wonder why people continue to call it a democracy even when they know that it isn’t. I guess it is just a sticky name

its a union rather than a monarchy. canada is a monarchy and a democracy. usa is a union of republics and a democracy they are different dimensions

This is a naive take. It’s much more complicated than that. You’re missing the federal and state's. It’s a republic union of republics, so calling it a “Republic” is the most accurate definition

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Post by timr »

riedel wrote: post #635
timr wrote: post #525

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First of all, Wikipedia is useless for definitions of words that are in the middle of active political debate. You completely ignored the definition I gave you (which is from an impartial source [1]) in favor of one you prefer , from a wiki. Setting that aside, you will see the that the citation for that definition [2] basically underscores the ambiguity of the term: > Political scientists have outlined elaborated ty…

I started with a question about what 'correct' means to you. So I was actually just questioning your rather absolute understanding of correctness. I just cited a random different source. I find it troublesome that criticism about a political situation which is troubling people, is often put on a semantic and personal level.

Correctness is difficult when you’re dealing with a word that has a vague constellation of meanings. I gave you a correct definition. I didn’t assert that it was the only possible correct definition, but it is correct, and I made an argument, using that definition, that the current administration does not fit. Picking another definition is not a counterargument, unless you can also convincingly argue that the definition I gave you is wrong.

Backing up, my point was that people use this word as an epithet, and have little understanding of any meaning at all, beyond “politician did something I don’t like”. The definition doesn’t fit, because people are just slinging insults.

The problem with picking an alternative definition from Wikipedia, in particular, is that it has absolutely been gamed to fit whatever the Current Thing happens to be. For that reason, you should favor a less chaotic source.

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Post by jama211 »

jacquesm wrote: post #181
jama211 wrote: post #38

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That will take time and may be good long term advice but is almost useless short term advice - they (and potentially you) should read the room, we’re talking about their immediate urgency. Their comment was pretty insensitive considering that.

I've seen my life upturned a couple of times on short notice, I was merely being very practical, it is you that should 'read the room', in the most immediate sense there is fuck-all that will come out of being frustrated and shouting 'injustice', you need to act because the clock is ticking. Get your money out as fast as you can, try to find a way to give someone power of attorney so you don't end up losing everythin…

Do you really think the comment “other countries exist” isn’t insensitive? That was my point. Now you’re just being needlessly aggressive.

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Post by politician »

jauntywundrkind wrote: post #631
politician wrote: post #272

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Aren't the left the ones making the claim posed by your opening sentence these days? Could you clarify whether it's seditious only when one side is making that claim or is the seditiousness of the claim group-independent?

The left wants social services and funding science and health care and education. The left wants legitimacy in the law & a government deserving of respect. Look through Kamala's campaign website & it's clear there's respect & desire for government. https://web.archive.org/web/20250101001206/https://kamalahar... The right is pretty uniquely anti government, is enraptured by conspiracy theories and madness. Reagan stro…

Honestly, what I see is that one side murders the other side when they talk about being opposed to the changes being forced upon them.

Complaints about "the whataboutism" is a strawman, to distract and deflect.

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Post by tomhow »

duped wrote: post #620
xyzelement wrote: post #614

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Ok let me give you a richer answer. You ascribe to Republicans (so, to me) a belief that gays or trans shouldn't exist. Just like earlier you ascribed to us/me a hatred of immigrants. These are (1) NOT MY VIEWS and (2) views I don't hear from actual Republicans. If someone told me they hated immigrants or gays or trans I would tell them to fuck off and never speak to them again. So what do I do with the fact that peo…

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Post by esalman »

1oooqooq wrote: post #568
esalman wrote: post #148

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Let me guess, you're not an immigrant?

lived 5yr on L1A. It's a week to leave the country if laid off. But at the same time, most of the penalties/costs fall on the sponsoring company for all cases. ICE black shirts make it more uncertain on enforcement, but there's still laws.

I don't know about this. As a brown student on F1 visa, I even used to walk into Walmart different than I do now.

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Post by jauntywundrkind »

politician wrote: post #666
jauntywundrkind wrote: post #631

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The left wants social services and funding science and health care and education. The left wants legitimacy in the law & a government deserving of respect. Look through Kamala's campaign website & it's clear there's respect & desire for government. https://web.archive.org/web/20250101001206/https://kamalahar... The right is pretty uniquely anti government, is enraptured by conspiracy theories and madness. Reagan stro…

Honestly, what I see is that one side murders the other side when they talk about being opposed to the changes being forced upon them. Complaints about "the whataboutism" is a strawman, to distract and deflect.

I see the government trying to hide the data & I vious fact that says it's one side that is violent extremeist. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/17/justice-depa...

Sure there's some violent the other way too, some Chinese Robber Fallacy. But it's vanishingly small, it's not systematic, it's not the nature of the non-right at all, unlike what the right how the right has been agitating itself, pushing itself towards stochastic terrorism. There's a whole delusional crafted reality telling America my god Antifa is raging through the streets, wanton violence everywhere, you are under attack! But crime stats are way down, and from here in DC and from what Chicago tells me, it's all pure fabricated nonsense, deranged madness, terror-mongering.

I don't see both sides resorting to political violence. It's absolutely core to look at the character of the parties. Dems have tried again and again for bipartisanship, to be inclusive of of both parties. Lawful respectful hopeful charcacter abound, respect for civility & wanting good for all. Those basic traits are so vanishingly rare on the right, who has been terror-mongering & trying to shock their gullible marks into never realizing they are being preyed upon by their party, that their party is getting their interests again and again and doing everything it can to benefit the ultra-wealthy.

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