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Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by scheme271 »

softwaredoug wrote: post #554

IMO I think we need to fast-track H1Bs -> Green Card -> Citizens. Make skilled immigration easier, not harder. Otherwise, if its too onerous, we're just training another countries workforce.

This is already the case with Indians and possibly Chinese. The waiting time for h1b to green card for Indians is several decades right now and maybe 5-10 years for Chinese. Things might get better if the climate discourages future immigration from these countries but there's already a big backlog in place.

Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by nelox »

disillusioned wrote: post #529

I saw that a certain reading of this language: > Section 1. Restriction on Entry. (a) Pursuant to sections 212(f) and 215(a) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), 8 U.S.C. 1182(f) and 1185(a), the entry into the United States of aliens as nonimmigrants to perform services in a specialty occupation under section 101(a)(15)(H)(i)(b) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(15)(H)(i)(b), is restricted, except for those alie…

No, the language clearly limits the restriction to those “aliens … currently outside the United States.” “Entry” in this context means seeking admission (or re-entry) to the U.S. from abroad, under a new petition or visa that starts outside. It is tied to new petitions, and specifically those where the beneficiary is abroad.

“(b) The Secretary of Homeland Security shall restrict decisions on petitions not accompanied by a $100,000 payment for H-1B specialty occupation workers … who are currently outside the United States …”

Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by throwacct »

peripitea wrote: post #510
reply00r123 wrote: post #372

I ran into a guy making double six figures for like the last 7 years at a known public tech company. He was literally doing the most basic DevOps (Terraform). Nothing fancy. Zero ability to program. No willingness or desire to learn programming. He was an H1B. That blew me away. How is it possible that you have a guy in the US for 10 years who never bothered learning to code doing a 200K / year job. The abuse of H1B…

How exactly is the system being abused by this guy being paid $200k?

I think the premise the OP is pointing at is that this could be a position for a US citizen.

Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by [deleted] »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #543
osnium123 wrote: post #511

Won’t this mean that companies will move jobs to India, China or even Canada?

I had a former employer with an Indian subsidiary for this very purpose. The problem is that there is no loyalty to the company and it becomes a revolving door of inexperienced people who couldn't get into H-1B. Always fun when they lie you about testing a feature that you haven't implemented yet. Incidentally, they also introduced ransomware into the entire corporate network (domestic IT was also barely competent).

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Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by daft_pink »

cuttothechase wrote: post #78

As a side effect, this could reduce the pipeline of foreign students coming in on F1 with plans to transition to a work visa over time. F1 -> OPT -> H1 bridge is way more expensive now. Universities are bound to lose a ton of money due to this. Those outside of the top 50 will likely get hammered.

I'm a little bit confused by the text of the proclamation. It says people outside the country have to pay a $100k fee. Isn't an F1 student on OPT inside the country and not subject to the fee? Or are they required to leave the country to apply and are subject to it.

The proclamation gives me the impression that foreign students are exempt from the fee.

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Post by jrockway »

bhouston wrote: post #531

This is actually smart. Many H1B visas are used to undermine fair labor wages for already local talent. We should ensure that H1B visas are for actual unique talent and not just to undercut local wages. H1B is ripe with abuse - this article by Bloomberg says that half of all H1-B visas are used by Indian staffing firms that pay significantly lower than the US laborers they are replacing: - https://www.bloomberg.com/g…

Are H1B visas undercutting wages significantly? I haven't really looked since the zero interest rates era, but back then H1Bs were getting paid the same as everyone else. I got the impression that companies would like to hire citizens (for their own convenience), but there were more jobs than people.

The economy kind of sucks right now but it ain't H1B visa holders that are the problem.

Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by fooey »

technocrat8080 wrote: post #653

How are startups supposed to afford this? How are talented H-1B workers supposed to start companies? And no, the answer is not always an O-1. I know plenty of foreign founders contributing meaningfully to the US economy, now slapped with a 100k fee.

they're not, it's a moat

Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by daft_pink »

malshe wrote: post #203
cuttothechase wrote: post #78

As a side effect, this could reduce the pipeline of foreign students coming in on F1 with plans to transition to a work visa over time. F1 -> OPT -> H1 bridge is way more expensive now. Universities are bound to lose a ton of money due to this. Those outside of the top 50 will likely get hammered.

Yes, 100%. Also, many universities will find it impossible to recruit new faculty as most Ph.D. students are international students who end up working in American universities.

American Universities are exempt from H1B fees. Anyone receiving an H1B to work at a US University is exempt from the fee and exempt from the lottery.

Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by [deleted] »

zahlman wrote: post #613
archeantus wrote: post #586

If you want a good job in tech, go look at Walmart’s job board in the coming weeks. They literally have thousands of Indians doing all kinds of jobs that could easily be done by Americans. I liked my time there, and there’s lots of great people, but it felt very clear that the system was being abused.

I have to say, when one thinks of jobs available at Walmart, tech doesn't exactly come to mind first.

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