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Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by windward »

johnklos wrote: post #244

This is a usually technical crowd, so I can't help but wonder if many people genuinely don't get it, or if they are just feigning a lack of understanding to be dismissive of Anubis. Sure, the people who make the AI scraper bots are going to figure out how to actually do the work. The point is that they hadn't, and this worked for quite a while. As the botmakers circumvent, new methods of proof-of-notbot will be made…

Many sufficiently technical people take to heart:

- Everything is pwned

- Security through obscurity is bad

Without taking to heart:

- What a threat model is

And settle on a kind of permanent contrarian nihilist doomerism.

Why eat greens? You'll die one day anyway.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by jeroenhd »

ChrisRR wrote: post #652
armada651 wrote: post #615

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is there an aversion though? Is it about the image itself or because of the subculture people are associating with the image?

Both. I don't want any random pictures of young girls popping up while I'm browsing the web, and why would adults insert pictures of young girls into their project in the first place?

What a strange comment to make about a cartoon character.

Also, the anime reference is very much intentional at this point; while the source code is open so anyone can change it, the author sells a version for the boring serious types where you can easily change the logo without recompiling the source yourself. Adding the additional bottleneck of having to sync a custom fork or paying out to placate the "serious" people is a great way to get the large corporations to pay a small fee to cover maintenance.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by account42 »

mattnewton wrote: post #459
wat10000 wrote: post #349

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If they become aware of it and actually think it’s worthwhile. Malicious bots work by scaling, and implementing special cases for every random web site doesn’t scale. And it’s likely they never even notice.

If this kind of security by not being noticed is the plan, why not just have a trivial (but unique) captcha that asks the user to click a button with no battery wasting computation?

Because you can't sell that as a commercial solution that the open source software ecosystem provides free advertising to.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by jeroenhd »

anarki8 wrote: post #566

Article might be a bit shallow, or maybe my understanding of how Anubis works is incorrect? 1. Anubis makes you calculate a challenge. 2. You get a "token" that you can use for a week to access the website. 3. (I don't see this being considered in the article) "token" that is used too much is rate limited. Calculating a new token for each request is expensive.

That's the basic principle. It's a tool to fight to crawlers that spam requests without cookies to prevent rate limiting.

The Chinese crawlers seem to have adjusted their crawling techniques to give their browsers enough compute to pass standard Anubis checks.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by windward »

octo888 wrote: post #646
armada651 wrote: post #615

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Why is there an aversion though? Is it about the image itself or because of the subculture people are associating with the image?

It's an aversion to the sexualised depiction of girls barely the age of puberty or under the age of consent. I'd ask why you /don't/ have an aversion to that? (yes, "not all anime" etc...)

I don't know why OP said 'young' at all. It has no characteristics pointing to age, and secondary gender characteristics.

So I'd ask why that makes you think of sexual consent.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by windward »

sidewndr46 wrote: post #245

> The CAPTCHA forces vistors to solve a problem designed to be very difficult for computers but trivial for humans I'm an unsure if this deadpan humor or if the author has never tried to solve a CAPTCHA that is something like "select the squares with an orthodox rabbi present"

I wonder if it's an intentional quirk that you can only pass some CAPTCHAs if you're a human who knows what an American fire hydrant or school bus looks like?

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by account42 »

NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #437
gabeio wrote: post #274

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The string “null” or actually null? I have recently seen a huge amount of bot traffic which has actually no UA and just outright block it. It’s almost entirely (microsoft cloud) Azure script attacks.

I was thinking the string "null". But if you have a better idea.

User-Agent: '; DROP TABLE blocked_bots;

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by klabb3 »

userbinator wrote: post #458
dingnuts wrote: post #107

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[flagged]

I thought HN was anti-copyright and anti-imaginary-property, or at least the bulk of its users were. Yet all of a sudden, "but AI!!!!1"? a federal crime The rest of the world doesn't care.

> I thought HN was anti-copyright

Maybe. But what’s happening is ”copyright for thee not for me”, not a universal relaxation of copyright. This loophole exploitation by behemoths doesn’t advance any ideological goals, it only inflames the situation because now you have an adversarial topology. You can see this clearly in practice – more and more resources are going into defense and protection of data than ever before. Fingerprinting, captchas, paywalls, login walls, etc etc.

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by windward »

antiloper wrote: post #131
turtletontine wrote: post #114

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Even if the images aren’t the kind of sexualized (or downright pornographic) content this implies… having cutesy anime girls pop up when a user loads your site is, at best, wildly unprofessional. (Dare I say “cringe”?) For something as serious and legit as kernel.org to have this, I do think it’s frankly shocking and unacceptable.

If anime girls prevent LLM scraper sympathizers from interacting with the kernel, that's a good thing and should be encouraged more!

You'd think it's the opposite, look at Joseph Redmon's resume:

https://web.itu.edu.tr/yavuzid19/cv.pdf

Re: Why are anime catgirls blocking my access to the Linux kernel?

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Post by account42 »

CursedSilicon wrote: post #177
Arnavion wrote: post #148

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The string I use in my extension is "anubis is crap". I took it from a different FF extension that had been posted in a /g/ thread about Anubis, which is where I got the idea from in the first place. I don't use other people's extensions if I can help it (because of the obvious risk), but I figured I'd use the same string in my own extension so as to be combined with users of that extension for the sake of user-agent…

It's a bit telling that you "don't use extensions if you can help it" but trust advice from a 4chan board

It's telling that he understands the difference between taking something he can't fully verify and taking simple hints that improve his understanding?
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