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Post by beyondHelp »

dragochat wrote: post #496
notepad0x90 wrote: post #245

Politics aside, LA just can't seem to catch a break. Floods last year, fires earlier this year and now this. That said, what the current administration is doing is almost like they're following a manual other countries followed on their road to nationalistic decline and all the right people in places of power seem to know this. I wonder if they're ready for it? My observation is that the previous administration had f…

> The planned decline of America won't be like other countries Maybe bc americans WON'T and SHOULDN'T settle for a decline - they should violently rebel against this mindset and claw they way UPWARDS - there's more room for more growth, even if you lose #1 status and have to settle for #2 for a while you can still catch up etc. It's good that at least the US and China are NOT infected with this degrowth and "cyclical…

Nah, Everything has beginning and end and USA and others are very much near their end. You can't build anything new without destroying old. It is painful to live in "interesting times", but it is part of natural processes when corruption eats away society that is falling apart only this time it is very global.

The signs are there, that this is global situation before WW1 or WW2 - status quo has to change, balance of power has to change - USA does not want to start to implement any of those changes and those who are way smarter than me think that USA should stay away from epicenter of anything and join for the spoils only part.

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Post by trust_bt_verify »

righthand wrote: post #638
matt-attack wrote: post #601

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perceived enemy? Even the most liberal of cities touting themselves as “sanctuary cities” had to pivot and declare they simply cannot handle the influx. 12million immigrants came into the country during the Biden administration. This type of load on the system does not go unnoticed. NYC for example was drastically transformed. Why do you think it’s just a “perceived” problem?

We had no problem in NY handling the influx. In fact we handled it so well that it angered the Republicans even more because they still gave immigration money to Texas AND had to give more money to the sanctuary cities. A problem they created and reaped the effects. There were not 12 million immigrants entering during the Biden administration. Please provide balanced proof. The only people in NY that claimed we could…

Same with Chicago. They handled it from what I heard, why did Texas struggle so even with the extra federal dollars they get?

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Post by piva00 »

spencerflem wrote: post #353
piva00 wrote: post #345

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To anyone who watched or lived through the ascension of Orbán and Erdogan in the 2000s it was very eerie how similar the playbook was for Trump. The same steps, in the same direction, the competitive authoritarian[0] playbook was clearly in full play, during the first term Trump started to openly attack the free press, subjugate some democratic institutions, etc. but guardrails were still holding, some GOP Congress p…

Yeah it all feels so hopeless. I don't know what I should be doing.

I don't know anything else apart from finding communities and mobilising with similar-minded people, there's power in numbers.

At the same time it feels pretty hopeless, even more when I noticed downvotes coming to my comment right after the day rose in the USA without any rebuttal, you're among people who actually support this and do not realise the path it's verging towards.

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Post by andrewflnr »

neither_color wrote: post #550
trilbyglens wrote: post #425

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the system is designed to allow these people in a gray zone, so they do not have access to the same rights as citizens and therefore can be exploited. The problem is not illegal immigration. It's just a political football. Our economy would fily collapse without this cheap labor to exploit.

The US refuses to admit it has always had an addiction to cheap labor so it entices desperate people to come over with the implicit assumption that if they keep their head down and are otherwise law-abiding it'll "look the other way." Some of them, after years of living on the outskirts of town, commuting 1.5 hours each day to back-breaking minimum wage jobs, and years without seeing their families, are able to scrou…

> Americans' hubristic tendency is to look at a place like Singapore or some other new skyline in the middle east or Asia and declare smugly "borderline slaves built that."

FWIW, I bet the part of the population saying that is also the part opposed to the current immigration enforcement, namely liberals.

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Post by philwelch »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #268
leereeves wrote: post #220

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It's terrifying, certainly. One man was taken into custody for allegedly throwing a Molotov cocktail at an officer and a motorcyclist was arrested for ramming a police skirmish line. https://www.yahoo.com/news/kill-l-police-attacked-fireworks-... Los Angeles County Sheriff Robert Luna said "you had people who were...attacking police officers, deputy sheriffs and causing a lot of destruction." The 101 Freeway shut dow…

> One man was taken into custody for allegedly throwing a Molotov cocktail at an officer and a motorcyclist was arrested for ramming a police skirmish line So less violence towards law enforcement and insurrection than January 6th. Action the President endorsed in January by issuing pardons. Honestly, if a Democrat were to match Trump's energy, they'd be promising pardons to protesters who damaged ICE property or tor…

I like how the federal government actually enforcing federal law is a “coup” to you.

If Trump wanted to match Democrat energy he would declare the LA riots an insurrection and devote 40% of the FBI to identifying, rounding up, and imprisoning all of the protestors.

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Post by AStonesThrow »

aaronbaugher wrote: post #652
jl6 wrote: post #514

It's clear that many commenters here are operating from completely different factual bases, in terms of who did what, and in what order. Fog of war seems to be in effect.

It takes a lot of words to convince people not to believe what they can see for themselves in video.

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Post by jajko »

major505 wrote: post #534
jxjnskkzxxhx wrote: post #223

There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state. The other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people.

yeah. A good quote from Adama, but that only applies to the US. In many places around the world the police and military are the same.

Nowhere in any western country, Heck, I've visited a bit of Africa and tons of south east Asia and a bit of South America and this ain't true neither for any of countries I visited.

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Post by csomar »

csours wrote: post #229

Ahead of time, and from the inside, it looks and sounds like 'restoring proper order'. Afterwards, and from the outside, it looks and sounds like ... well read some history about attempts to 'restore proper order'. The outcome and progression is entirely and sadly predictable. It's been about 80 years since WWII. Are we doomed to repeat this on an 80 year cycle, when the last generation who went through this passes f…

As someone who got advice when I was younger and got older; I think we are doomed to not learn anything from history. This might explain the persistence of religion: Here are a set of rules that kind of worked, just follow them blindly and religiously.

The current US generation didn't go to a full blown war; and the US did little infighting in the previous decade (that requires mass mobilization). Think about it this way: Trump wants to lower the interest rate and ease monetary policy in good times. Putin maintain high rates despite him having a full blown war. Trump has never experienced hyper-inflation but Putin did.

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