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Apple introduces a universal design across platforms

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Re: Apple introduces a universal design across platforms

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Post by kelseydh »

dimal wrote: post #148

Oh no. It looks like every button and menu is now a translucent layer, so that any noise from the background shows through and muddles the text. This seems like an accessibility nightmare. Translucent layers generally make software unusable for me. In the video, I saw several instances that would be really really bad for me, where I’d be straining to understand the text. Looks really cool and futuristic though. Just…

The "liquid glass" design changes shown by Apple look mostly like slight tinkering around the edges of how widgets look/feel. Way less of a design change than the move to flat design was.

Re: Apple introduces a universal design across platforms

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Post by bitwize »

detourdog wrote: post #50
bitwize wrote: post #33

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That's exactly what I thought. Look, they invented Windows Aero. Bet the John Gruber types who laughed at Aero and called it an Aqua ripoff are going full "two soyjaks pointing meme" over this.

Was Aero trying to look like Quartz? The big improvement I see is that the plumbing has better integration and with Continuity it's really impressive. Even if it looks like Aero the functionality the OS is providing is the real feature.

Aero wasn't trying to look like Aqua. Steve Jobs would have launched a devastating hypercombo of legal action if it were. But it was clearly a response to Aqua: use 3D acceleration to provide fancy effects and shiny widgets. The previous release, Windows XP, still did everything with lines, solid-fill rects, and blitted bitmaps and was starting to look long in the tooth compared to Mac OS X.

Re: Apple introduces a universal design across platforms

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Post by mjmas »

Windows at least did it (at least conceptually) in a way that should be fairly performant with their Mica material (just showing the desktop background and nothing else with a large blur and filters).

This looks far more complex and something almost like real time ray tracing.

Re: Apple introduces a universal design across platforms

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Post by leakycap »

MangoToupe wrote: post #415
leakycap wrote: post #198

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Apple didn't talk about AI or Siri because they're currently flailing and so behind it's concerning. This was design-focused because skin-deep was all they accomplished.

> because they're currently flailing and so behind ...behind what? Siri doesn't have a meaningful competitor on iOS. Nothing else even has access to my personal data.

As far as I know, Siri cannot (by Apple's design) have a competitor on iOS.

Unless you consider unlocking your phone, opening an app like Amazon, and tapping a microphone to talk to Alexa as a fair access for competition.

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Post by russelg »

carlosjobim wrote: post #149
jcalx wrote: post #82

The children yearn for ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶m̶i̶n̶e̶s̶ Frutiger Aero ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frutiger_Aero )

15 years later, Shine 2.0 for Windows is still the most modern and best designed GUI for computers: https://www.deviantart.com/zainadeel/art/Shine-2-0-for-Windo...

Wow this unlocked repressed memories for me! DeviantArt was a treasure trove back in the Win7 days for windows theming. I used Shine for quite a while!

Re: Apple introduces a universal design across platforms

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Post by BonoboIO »

I'm honestly shocked at the new interface. It's like Windows Vista all over again - everything's broken. The whole thing looks like a broken HTML page with CSS slapped on top of macOS Finder. Text readability is terrible and I really hope you can disable most of the glass effects in accessibility settings.

This'll probably stick around for years until Apple decides to switch design languages again, and they'll never admit the old one was bad - classic Apple.

It's unbelievably broken... like an Android phone with 30 themes installed at once.

iOS 18 actually looks good and is readable, which makes this worse. That's the thing about peaking - it's a long way down. Feels like they had to ship something because their AI isn't just behind - it's absolutely broken like shit. Siri's been stale for 15 years, and they're not even polishing features that others have half-baked into their products. They've got... nothing.

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Post by steve-atx-7600 »

jorvi wrote: post #324
coastalpuma wrote: post #179

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I agree, I think it extends to anybody who wants a calmer experience or has vision trouble or strain. I guess you can turn those options off but if the aesthetic appeal of the design is based on them then I assume we'll be getting a second-class version of it. I was already leaning towards switching to Linux for other reasons but I think this is the thing that finally pushes me there. I think optimizing for VisionOS…

To me it looks plain ugly, especially with all the bounces and transforms. Look at those sliders and toggles.. It's straight from the 2000s, with Linux users using Compiz and... Amethyst(?), stuffing their entire desktop full with gaudy transparency, transforms, jiggles and bounces. More of a nit, but the sentence The new design extends across iOS 26, iPadOS 26, macOS Tahoe 26, watchOS 26, and tvOS 26 to establish ev…

Thought you guys were just being whiney until I looked at the linked “beautiful new design” page and saw the screen shots they selected. Literally gives me a headache to look at the first sample and I am one of the people that miss the candy coated look of early OS X.

Re: Apple introduces a universal design across platforms

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Post by georgebcrawford »

thenaturalist wrote: post #284
georgebcrawford wrote: post #281

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What does autism have to do with it?

Check the parent comment.

Oh! I've long struggled with the narrow indents on Hacker News comments. I thought this was a reply to OP.

Thank you.

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