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https://support.google.com/googlepay/answer/11234179?hl=en&c...
Those don’t have a fake address. You still have to put the right name and billing to pass verification. A prepaid Visa/MC/Amex gift card might work, but those are easily blockable. I’d expect Adobe to do so.
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That is not how copyright works. "Inspired" works can still be derrivative. In the US, entirely deterministic works are not considered derrivative works as they aren't considered new creative works (if anything they are considered the same as the original). See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridgeman_Art_Library_v._Corel...
“In the US, entirely deterministic works are not considered derrivative works as they aren't considered new creative works (if anything they are considered the same as the original)” Okay, so if the inputs to the model are my artwork to replicate my style, is the output copyrightable by you? You just said deterministic works aren’t derivative, they’re considered the same as the original. That’s not anything I’ve hear…
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> But substantially the same thing happens if the AI is trained on some other artist's work instead. You could take that further and say that "substantially the same thing" happens if the AI is trained on music instead. It's just another kind of artwork, right? Somebody who was going to have an illustration by [illustrator with distinctive style] might choose to have music instead, so the music is in competition, so…
If you type "street art" as part of an image generation prompt, the results are quite similar to typing "in the style of Banksy". They're direct substitutes for each other, neither of them is actually going to produce Banksy-quality output and it's not even obvious which one will produce better results for a given prompt. You still get images in a particular style by specifying the name of the style instead of the na…
My counter-argument is "no". Ideally I'd elaborate on that. So ummm ... no, that's not the way things are. Is it?
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> Right, but "distaste" isn't grounds for trying to ban something I disagree. There are many laws on the books codifying social distastes. They keep your local vice squad busy.
I thought most people supported moving away from that and towards a more socially liberal model. If we're no longer doing that I have a whole stack of socially conservative policies I guess I'll go back to pushing. I don't think y'all really want to go down this road; it leads straight back to the nineties republicans holding senate hearings on what's acceptable content for a music album.
For but a few examples consider laws regarding gambling, many aspects of zoning, or deceptive marketing.
What's the purpose of the law if not providing stability? Why should social issues be exempted from that?
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> A legal reality where you can only train AI on content you've licensed would be the worst for everybody bar massive companies, legacy artists included. Quite an assertion. Why exactly would this be true?
who else has would ever have a significantly large store of licensed material?
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Throwaways/virtual cards are my default state. If it's worth subscribing, it's worth the seconds it takes to generate and copy. Think about it: you're in control. Not being at the mercy of... whoever is great. You said it yourself: attempt . Why play with your money? The toys/experiences it can afford are way more fun. Chargebacks are more effort, and IIRC, weigh negatively on you as well. Can only do so many. I expe…
Absolutely, you have excessive chargebacks and you will find your credit card issuer “opting to end their relationship with you”.
Adobe runs what must be one of the largest deceptive rebills. The vast majority of users signing up for a monthly plan do not realize that it is actually an "annual plan, billed monthly" and thus that if they cancel after one month (for example) they'll be billed for the remaining 11 immediately. I honestly don't know how they haven't faced FTC action for this, as it's been their primary model for 5-10 years now.
FTC Takes Action Against Adobe and Executives for Hiding Fees, Preventing Consumers from Easily Cancelling Software Subscriptions
June 17, 2024
https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2024/06/...
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I'm not the person who responded, but I believe it came from a place of "what is art" (and you had used the word "artist"). My own position is that "art" can only be created by a human. AI can produce text, images, and sounds, and perhaps someday soon they can even create content that is practically indistinguishable from Picasso or Mozart, but they would still fail to be "art." So sure, an AI can create assets to pa…
> I mean I would never...if what I'm viewing is largely the output of AI. What would the point be? I agree with the sentiment, however.. Good luck to all of us at holding to that philosophy as AI & Non-AI become indistinguishable. You can tell now. I don't think you'll be able to tell much longer. If for no other reason than the improvements in the last 3 years alone. You'll literally have to research the production…
But if I see something that I think is cool and interesting, and then I discover that it was mostly the result of a few AI prompts, then I just don't care about it anymore. I don't "feel bad" that I thought it interesting, rather, I just completely lose interest.
I do fear that it will be increasingly difficult to tell what is generated by AI and what is created by humans. Just examining myself, I think that would mean I would retreat from mainstream pop-culture stuff, and it would be with sadness. It's a bleak future to imagine. It seems reminiscent of the "versificator" in George Orwell's 1984.
As a photographer, I have a love/hate relationship with Adobe. I’m not a fan of many aspects of their business, but Lightroom is a (sometimes) excellent product. On the one hand, I don’t have much sympathy for Adobe. On the other hand, this whole situation is why I am not on social media these days with the exception of HN and niche subreddits. Even if much of the criticism they receive is warranted, the social media…
Online communities have an inherent death spiral dynamic, unless you actively moderate away toxic people. These people drive away normal folks creating an ever more distilled community of unpleasant folks. How many normal people are going to hang around places like reddit and bluesky that are seemingly now filled with hate and conspiracy theories.
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Collections rarely does anything. I mean they will nag you, but you ask them to only contact you in writing, and it basically goes away. The collection agency could sue you, but it's rare. It involves putting together a realistic case (we are sure this person signed this contract and owes us $X) and that is expensive. The billing your credit card 50% is a "well we tried" type thing. They're happy if it works out, but…
In the US, a collection on your credit report can tank your FICO score by more than 100 points, affecting your ability to borrow at the best rate, rent a home, or get certain jobs. This would be a very risky move if the purchase was made in such a way that you are personally liable.