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Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by rangestransform » Wed, Mar 19, 2025, 6:45 PM UTC

jajko wrote: post #85

drumhead wrote: post #22

If the objective is to scare people off from going to the USA, then they're doing a magnificent job. I've heard other cases of people with green cards being arrested and put in terrible conditions, with absolutely no reason given. This woman was ready to go back home and not enter the US, but instead she was dragged through hell and only released because she was Canadian. All those with different passports get subjec…

Smart immigrants shouldn't migrate to US anymore, period. Not if you have more than just very short-sighted dollar signs on your eyes. Its just plain out stupid thing to do, to be treated worse than garbage. This is how institutionalized xenophobia looks like. The fact is, I've read very similar articles about how US treats any non-US citizens a decade or two ago. Nothing changed dramatically, people just bring these…

> Its just plain out stupid thing to do, to be treated worse than garbage.

My home country and the EU treat me even worse because of the lack of 200k+ USD jobs for my experience level

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by bobalob » Wed, Mar 19, 2025, 6:45 PM UTC

consteval wrote: post #636

enoch_r wrote: post #629

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To be blunt, your perspective does not align with reality. The reality is that transgender Americans have been doing these things, all these things, for many decades. And nobody, and I do mean nobody, cared. Ultimately you are not inspecting penises in the Men's room. You, yourself, do not care. What do you believe transgender people did in the 70s, or 80s, or 90s? You've never thought about it because you know, deep…

Feminists were protesting this way back in the 1970s. Janice Raymond even wrote a popular book about it.

Here's a review of her book, from 1979, which lays out many of the same points around this issue as are being discussed today: https://www.nytimes.com/1979/06/10/archives/male-and-female-...

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by debo_ » Wed, Mar 19, 2025, 6:46 PM UTC

cutemonster wrote: post #503

mateus1 wrote: post #400

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Musk, Trump and DOGE topics are all being flagged, even if they are relevant… The tech world has blessed this regime.

I don't think 51% of the readers here need to flag something for it to get flagged - maybe more like 5% or 15%? I guess you can conclude that a few percent here likes Trump etc, but far from a majority

I think there's also a reasonable proportion of readers who want "political" topics removed from HN, even if the topic intersects with HN-relevant topics.

(I'm not one of them, but I believe many are. I appreciate where they are coming from.)

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by consteval » Wed, Mar 19, 2025, 6:50 PM UTC

yusaythat wrote: post #660

consteval wrote: post #636

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To be blunt, your perspective does not align with reality. The reality is that transgender Americans have been doing these things, all these things, for many decades. And nobody, and I do mean nobody, cared. Ultimately you are not inspecting penises in the Men's room. You, yourself, do not care. What do you believe transgender people did in the 70s, or 80s, or 90s? You've never thought about it because you know, deep…

I grew up in locker rooms. I started swimming competitively at age 7. The whole, "you were actually surrounded by trans people your whole life and never knew it till 5 years ago!" is absolutely delusional and my guess is you don't actually have much experience in men's rooms at all.

I have, of course, been in Men's rooms. In my experiences in Men's rooms, I have seen remarkably few penises.

These transgender people did not suddenly pop out of nowhere. For context, I know several trans women who are in their 50s, and transitioned a long time ago.

I see with transgender people what I saw with homosexuals. That they were some type of phenomena, a new social contagion. That they are on the attack. I thought, surely the general population would never be stupid enough to fall for such an obvious falsehood yet again. Of course they've always existed.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by j_timberlake » Wed, Mar 19, 2025, 6:53 PM UTC

throwawaymaths wrote: post #484

snapcaster wrote: post #3

This is horrible and scary, why border guards are even giving the authority to revoke visas is beyond me. When people think about giving cops/guards authority like this they need to be picturing the dumbest bully from their grade school. That's who is going to be using the power

I'm about to travel to canada on work and as i understand it the last step in the visa is an interview at the port of entry where the border guard can decide if I get to stay or not.

Imagine taking a >$500 flight to Japan or South Korea only to be told by the border guard there that you can't enter, even when no rules were broken. And then the flight home is even more expensive. It happens sometimes.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Mar 19, 2025, 6:55 PM UTC

causal wrote: post #369

transcriptase wrote: post #88

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The specifics are seemingly irrelevant to everyone. She had her work visa revoked at the Canadian border because her company in California was allegedly making THC beverages in violation of federal law. She was told to visit a consulate to straighten it out. Instead she flew to Mexico and tried to enter there with new and obviously fake job offer. She was treated like anyone else would, but it’s international news be…

Disingenuous take, did you even read the article? 1) She was not detained in connection with any crime whatsoever. At no point was her company's use of THC stated as a reason for detainment. 2) You have invented the idea that her second job was fake. If it were, then fraud could have been a crime and reason for detainment- but again, the article makes it clear no crime was charged or cited. 3) You are right that plen…

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Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by enoch_r » Wed, Mar 19, 2025, 6:55 PM UTC

consteval wrote: post #636

enoch_r wrote: post #629

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To be blunt, your perspective does not align with reality. The reality is that transgender Americans have been doing these things, all these things, for many decades. And nobody, and I do mean nobody, cared. Ultimately you are not inspecting penises in the Men's room. You, yourself, do not care. What do you believe transgender people did in the 70s, or 80s, or 90s? You've never thought about it because you know, deep…

> The reality is that transgender Americans have been doing these things, all these things, for many decades.

Do you have any evidence for that?

For example, do you have evidence of any of these happening in the US before, say, 1990?

- any openly transgender athlete participating in sports on the team of their preferred gender rather than their sex assigned at birth?

- large numbers of children receiving "gender-affirming" hormones or puberty blockers?

- transgender prisoners being housed with the sex they identify as, regardless of whether they actually "present as" that sex?

- a transgender woman being accepted to attend a all-women college?

Maybe all of these happened quietly, so common and uncontroversial that they were totally unremarked upon. But surely there's some evidence that they occurred?

For me it simply doesn't pass the laugh test that a trans woman with a penis could walk into a nude spa in the 1970s, 1980s, or 1990s without anyone batting an eye.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by ok_dad » Wed, Mar 19, 2025, 6:57 PM UTC

kragen wrote: post #566

fourside wrote: post #543

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This is ironic. I thought there was a big push from the right for less censorship and less moderation in social media. Now we’re flagging posts because the comment section may get heated.

This has been HN policy since the beginning, and while HN is usually still quite unpleasant, policies like this one are largely responsible for preventing it from being worse. There are social contexts where discussions of topics like US immigration policy can do good rather than harm, but HN is not one of them.

Are you kidding? There are so many VCs here who have the resources to push for fair treatment of immigrants and foreign visitors! HN is the perfect place to discuss this.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by mandmandam » Wed, Mar 19, 2025, 7:01 PM UTC

lenerdenator wrote: post #336

bloopernova wrote: post #313

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People weren't supporting hamas, they were condemning the indiscriminate bombing of civilians. That message was picked up by the russians etc and turned into a wedge issue on social media.

> People weren't supporting hamas, they were condemning the indiscriminate bombing of civilians. At least within my little bubble , I saw a lot more concern about that than the fact that Hamas had basically committed a massive war crime on October 7th. The only people consistently talking about the hostages that I saw were my Jewish friends. Otherwise, it was mainly "Free Palestine". It's worth remembering that they…

> they also mainly targeted civilians

How many Palestinians, mostly civilians, were held hostage in Israeli prisons on October 6th? (Hint: over 5,000).

> If you were to kill, rape,

Are you referencing long debunked fabricated accounts [0]? Or do you have any actual evidence of rape?

> and kidnap the proportional equivalent of any country's civilian population

Again - over 5,000 Palestinians were being held hostage by Israel on October 6th, including 170 children [1]. That's a huge proportion of the population.

That's what October 7th was about. That's why they did it - to free kidnapped Palestinians. So, if you were to apply your own logic equally, you would then have to justify what Hamas did on October 7th.

You can compare any statistic you like - kidnappings, murders, torture, rape. Per capita, or absolute, Israel comes out worse every time.

> you are likely to see their military attack you

Most countries attack military targets. Not tens of thousands of children, or every hospital, or record numbers of journalists, and refugee camps. Because the numbers (real people) are unprecedented. Unprecedented.

> and not stop until you at the very least returned the hostages.

Hamas offered to return the hostages on October 9/10 in exchange for Israeli troops not entering Gaza [2].

Netanyahu has scuppered many deals since.

You may live in a bubble, but you can leave it any time you choose.

0 - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/how-2-debunked-accounts-o...

1 - https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20241023-number-of-palesti...

2 - https://www.timesofisrael.com/no-doubt-netanyahu-preventing-...

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by mdp2021 » Wed, Mar 19, 2025, 7:07 PM UTC

queuebert wrote: post #457

mdp2021 wrote: post #207

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Superstition can be inversely proportional to education. Cultivation should be proportional to education. That term you used is very slippery (actually, you used it as the opposite of a "superstition" - you gave it only the interpretation typical of later uses).

No, I meant religiosity: https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2017/04/26/in-america-d...

Yes, sorry, of course you meant that aspect. But the term remains too slippery, too far away from its real content - as can be apparent already in the stats you mention: first of all they are about a public expression, which are reasonably lower in some demographics for more reasons, and secondly they conflate very different phenomena (such as a very ambiguous idea of attributed "importance" vs the subscription to some dogmatic details).

There are also other reasons why you see different behaviours in doctors and nurses: already linguistically, the "nurse" "nourishes", the "doctor" remains the "learned" - one has a direct rapport, the other detached, out of the basic role construed. It just follows that the nurse more probably consoles and the doctor more probably communicates flatly.