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Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by Nition »

layer8 wrote: post #610
apparent wrote: post #361

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Rumor is that the 17 will have an Air edition that will be thinner/lighter. It won't help the reach issues much but will make them nicer to hold for extended periods of time. IME the minis are nice because of both weight and the ability to comfortably use with one hand.

The Air model will be 6.6”. It will be lighter than the Plus model it replaces, but I wouldn’t necessarily expect it to be lighter than the regular models. And certainly not usable with one hand.

And won't fit well in a pocket. :(

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by progmetaldev »

philistine wrote: post #357
new_vienna wrote: post #42

It seems that this will cannibalize iPhone 16 sales - it's $200 cheaper, same form factor and internals, with the only difference being the camera, which if you care about you go for the Pro model. However, the price makes for a much more appealing upgrade for anyone who has an older iPhone

Which is why this came out in February, after most of the sales of the iPhone 16 are done. Which is also why we will probably see the discontinuation of the regular iPhone 16 this Fall when the iPhone 17 is introduced, with this 16e staying on at the same price for an extra year.

While I'm not an expert, betting on the older model staying at the same price point until after the next model is released is a fairly safe bet, if you don't get an ever bigger discount once the next version comes out in the fall. Unless their own modem fails horribly, it seems they will continue with the new modem on the 17, driving the 16e price down.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by Nition »

apparent wrote: post #399
happyopossum wrote: post #269

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> but it's also noticeably bigger. I dunno, the old SE wasn’t a mini by any means - this is .3 inches taller and .2 inches wider, so yes bigger but not like a different size class altogether

This is a lot bigger. IIRC the mini is smaller than the old SE, and this is bigger than the mini. It's not a "plus" sized iPhone, but that would be skipping up two size classes. It has gone from small to regular.

To be absolutely clear, the mini is bigger than the first gen SE but smaller than the second and third gen SE.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by Nition »

asdff wrote: post #429
beretguy wrote: post #409

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Now compare it to 1st Gen SE.

Easily the nicest form factor phone they ever produced. You can reach the entire screen with the thumb in one hand without awkwardly flopping the phone onto the thumb in the farthest corner. It is smaller than your wallet. The battery lasted forever because the screen was small and not that bright or nearly so pixel dense. Too bad the management consultants killed such a technology.

I kinda want the 1st-gen 4" SE screen on a bezel-less modern phone. That'd really fit nicely in a pocket. Would modern apps and modern websites be usable on it?... not really, but maybe I don't need them anyway.

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Post by bdhcuidbebe »

threeseed wrote: post #545
nicce wrote: post #536

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> Yes because those phones by comparison do nothing so it’s a meaningless comparison. We were able to call with them and send messages. On top of that I mostly use browser with my current phone on comparison, while not necessary.

So most people make heavy use of applications like TikTok, Instagram, Facebook etc, take photos and videos, real time video calling, getting directions etc. All whilst on a colour, high-resolution screen orders of magnitude better than the Nokia phones. Acting like physics doesn’t exist and we should be able to get a month long battery life whilst doing all of the above is idiotic. No other way to describe it.

Well i use none of those apps, and I made a point about 25 years of technical progress, not heavy phone usage.

I see it got you riled up for some reason, but I cannot see why.

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Post by layer8 »

Nition wrote: post #661
layer8 wrote: post #610

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The Air model will be 6.6”. It will be lighter than the Plus model it replaces, but I wouldn’t necessarily expect it to be lighter than the regular models. And certainly not usable with one hand.

And won't fit well in a pocket. :(

Yep. A 6.1” Air would have been nice, but at 6.6” it’s kind of in a weird place.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by edm0nd »

SunlitCat wrote: post #133
kemayo wrote: post #18

Let's see... it's replacing the SE, which is no longer on Apple's website. It's more expensive than the SE, at $599 vs $429. It's a pretty substantial hardware upgrade over the SE, including something like 75% more battery life by Apple's numbers, but it's also noticeably bigger. Apple's own comparison tool is useful: https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/?modelList=iphone-16e,i...

The price hike is the major turn off point. Even as a non Apple person I was on the verge of getting the new "SE" if it's in the price range of the old SE line up. But not for 600 USD, that's a bit too much.

Just buy a used unlocked phone off eBay.

I've been sniping used Pixels off there for really good prices.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by layer8 »

ksec wrote: post #655
layer8 wrote: post #606

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I don’t think there is space, because the production costs of a mini model aren’t substantially lower. Remember that when the 12 mini launched, its price was the same as the 11, and the regular 12 got $100 more expensive.

The mini did exactly and precisely bump up the whole product range pricing. So the regular iPhone 12 got to $799 instead of $699. A 16e Mini will make the 16e product range starts at $499.

I just don’t think that a 16e mini at $499 would give Apple enough margin. The Face ID components are reportedly not cheap, OLED is also more expensive than LCD, they didn’t up the price to $599 just for fun.

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Post by asdff »

inetknght wrote: post #603
asdff wrote: post #432

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Nothing like grabbing your phone by the button in your pocket and having it unlocked and open before you even lay eyes on it. As fast as they advertise faceid being it will never beat the fact you can engage touchid as soon as you lay a finger on the phone.

> Nothing like grabbing your phone by the button in your pocket and having it unlocked and open before you even lay eyes on it. It's the perfect way to accidentally all of the things. Accidentally open an app. Now you have to wait for it to load, and waste your network data and battery, before you can do what you really wanted to do. Accidentally read that message, and also accidentally swipe it away while you fumble…

Somehow that never happened to me
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