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Post by para_parolu »

hector126 wrote: post #617
htfy96 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a close friend working in core research teams there. Based on our chats, the secret seems to be (1) massive compute power (2) ridiculous pay to attract top talents from established teams (3) extremelly hard work without big corp bureaucracy.

Anecdotal, but I've gotten three recruiting emails from them now for joining their iOS team. I got on a call and confirmed they were offering FAANG++ comp but with the expectation of in-office 50h+ (realistically more). I don't have that dog in me anymore, but there are plenty of engineers who do and will happily work those hours for 500k USD.

If you can share: were these 500k cash or cash +rsu?

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Post by kragen »

yodsanklai wrote: post #421
CSMastermind wrote: post #49

Karpathy gave his initial impression: https://x.com/karpathy/status/1891720635363254772 The pull quote is: The impression overall I got here is that this is somewhere around (OpenAI) o1-pro capability

Naive question from a bystander , but since DeepSeek is open source and is on par with o1-pro (is it?), shouldn't we expect that anybody with the computer power is capable to compete with o1-pro?

No DeepSeek model is open source; they're freely redistributable, but without source.

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Post by cedws »

llm_trw wrote: post #634
_heimdall wrote: post #530

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure how LLMs/AI couldn't consolidate power. By design, it will move power from the individual to those running the AI systems.

Because the difference between a model that costs 10 million to train and a model that costs 10 billion to train is 6 months. Deepseek R1 is something that you can run in a garage on hardware that the average software engineer can buy with a months salary and when it came out last month it was better than _every_ other model.

What about third world programmers? They can’t necessarily afford a $5000 GPU. If it weren’t for the “generosity” of tech companies like GitHub granting free LLM usage, they might be locked out entirely. This would put them at a disadvantage, we can argue to what degree but it’s still a disadvantage.

Depending on the curve we’re on, LLMs may grow more resource hungry while becoming closer to human performance in software engineering tasks. It’s not unimaginable this would concentrate productivity in the upper class of software engineers that can afford the hardware and/or licenses.

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ban-evader wrote: post #444

The story about how they made this happen in such a short period is impressive to say the least. Elon’s strength seems to be making things happen. Getting the largest computer cluster in the world up and running in a matter of months? Unbelievable.

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Post by 1970-01-01 »

rtkwe wrote: post #640
1970-01-01 wrote: post #623

It blows my mind that Musk hasn't integrated Grok as an app inside their vehicles. A literal AI copilot is a completely novel and killer app that cannot be pulled off by any other vehicle manufacturer.

Getting them to actually do something useful other than generating text is still a work in progress. What do you envision them actually doing in this integration?

Why does it need to work beyond text-based output?

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Post by xnx »

A very impressive debut. No doubt they benefited from all the research and discoveries that have preceded it.

Maybe the best outcome of a competitive Grok is breaking the mindshare stranglehold that ChatGPT has on the public at large and with HN. There are many good frontier models that are all very close in capabilities.

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Post by geor9e »

1970-01-01 wrote: post #623

It blows my mind that Musk hasn't integrated Grok as an app inside their vehicles. A literal AI copilot is a completely novel and killer app that cannot be pulled off by any other vehicle manufacturer.

I've been saying hey google drive home (for GPS directions), and play music, to the phone mounted on my dash for a decade. I drive a rusty old stick shift and alligator clamped a $10 bluetooth to the speaker. So I'm not sure what you're envisioning that can't also work on any other car. There is also https://comma.ai that adds self-driving to hundreds of newer cars via just a ODB2-like dongle and equivalent of a smartphone.
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