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Post by doodlebugging » Mon, Feb 17, 2025, 5:41 PM UTC

AntiquatedLunac wrote: post #651

doodlebugging wrote: post #617

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I saw your comment and saw it getting downvoted or flagged but it is useful to have a discussion so that others similarly inclined can potentially learn something that they obviously don't already understand. I reproduce that comment here in case it somehow disappears. >i voted for that, i voted for the destruction of the federal government because it's bankrupting us by stealing our money If you're concerned about t…

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Post by concordDance » Mon, Feb 17, 2025, 5:44 PM UTC

atoav wrote: post #491

concordDance wrote: post #325

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Even granting that, you would want MORE LGBTQ+/minority speech. The more energy people spend arguing with each other about culture war, the more dividee they are and the less they have for trying to change inequality. Trying to silence LGBTQ+ etc people goes directly against the goal you posit.

Not if you're trying to win the next election in the hope is going to be the last.

Post by Y_Y » Mon, Feb 17, 2025, 5:48 PM UTC

_heimdall wrote: post #326

manwe150 wrote: post #277

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Free speech in the US means they cannot make specific laws against proposing ideas, but a long history of legal cases does mean there are cases when you can be civilly or criminally liable if your words lead others to harmful actions

Its a weird grey area for sure. The best rationalization I have ever come up with is that when speech involves a legitimate threat to do harm, for example, that skips past just speech and can be seen as a step in actively planning to do harm. In certain situations, like murder or terrorism, we've agreed that simply planning to do it is a crime. Combine the two and it isn't that you said something that is illegal, its…

Post by rpastuszak » Mon, Feb 17, 2025, 5:54 PM UTC

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Post by thaumasiotes » Mon, Feb 17, 2025, 6:00 PM UTC

SiliconSplash wrote: post #378

aredox wrote: post #319

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Even with the partial overturn, it is perfectly clear there are limits to freedom of expression. The poster before you clearly mistakes "a high bar" to "no bar at all".

I was simply pointing out two common misconceptions. There are obviously some restrictions on speech in every nation. However in the US the restrictions on speech by the state are far fewer than pretty much anywhere else and are enshrined by law. This is in stark contrast to other other Western nations such as the UK where there are far, far more restrictions on speech.