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Who killed the rave?

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Re: Who killed the rave?

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If you’re thinking of groups, plural, then you probably know the ones I mean. And yeah, I wear the 20th anniversary tank top to the gym.

Why not just say what you're talking about? Are these some secret festivals or something?

Insider cool points. TBH I find it sad to be doing this at great expense but not putting any effort into making something accessible for younger generations.

Re: Who killed the rave?

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can i get on the list?

Foopee and 19hz Start going to shows and look for fliers Also check out spaz parties.

I naively assumed that https://19hz.info would have a terrible search ranking, but it actually ranks #1 for "19hz". Fantastic website, been using it for a while.

Re: Who killed the rave?

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> Tier 1 city RE prices have made live entertainment venues harder to run profitably. Which, in turn, makes events that do happen more expensive, decreasing turnout. If there's a Friday night event for CA$15 with CA$5 drinks, I'm much more likely to go than if it costs CA$50 with CA$15 drinks.

And that makes the city less desirable, so fewer people live there, and RE prices find an equilibrium.

Real life does not behave like an econ 101 class. Real estate in particular does not allow for perfect competition - there are significant entry and exit costs, and demand/supply tend toward inelasticity.

Re: Who killed the rave?

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Why not just say what you're talking about? Are these some secret festivals or something?

Insider cool points. TBH I find it sad to be doing this at great expense but not putting any effort into making something accessible for younger generations.

They’re talking about Regional Burns.

They’re all over America and I presume the world.

Re: Who killed the rave?

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“Flat earth” style economic denialism is not as cool as you seem to think. Govt interference propping housing prices through various means was previously mentioned as well.

> “Flat earth” style economic denialism is not as cool as you seem to think. Yeah, can you then point out an example of a city where densification worked to decrease the housing sale prices? Tokyo? Nope. Seattle? Definitely nope, even though its housing inventory grew by 25% within 12 years. Moscow? Nope. If it's so "round Earth", then there must be some early metrics that can indicate the success of densification ra…

I said nothing about "densification." This whole diatribe is in your mind. My original point was about there being a well-documented shortage of housing across the country. You can argue against it if you like but just look foolish.

You point at few absolute price decreases which is true but don't take into account multiple variables (like population increases, inflation, tax policy) or understand higher order derivatives. In which case you've got no business arguing in these threads.

Re: Who killed the rave?

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Honestly, you won't find me on the dance floor. I'll be meandering around listening to the music I love at seismic sound levels, looking at the art exhibits people set up, and chilling with my friends. I just want to soak up the vibes and love everyone and the world for a few days, not dance myself to exhaustion.

Are you me? lol. I'm in SoCal though, and we still do our own family-style desert parties and we sometimes go to bigger desert parties (Moontribe still going strong), and sometimes go to the mountains in the central valley too. Slinky (which was near Fresno) was so much fun until it ended recently after 21 years :( My friend group doesn't have anything in the mountains quite like Slinky to replace it, but it sounds l…

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Re: Who killed the rave?

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It's not really surprising, but the article seems to conflate raves with nightclubs, with numerous remarks about the cost of being out at a club all night and paying for things like expensive bottle service. Raves are not clubs, and historically have never done that well in club environments. People who are really into staying up all night dancing to techno music aren't buying expensive alcoholic drinks, they're buyi…

Not to mention cell phones everywhere.

Re: Who killed the rave?

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The enormous amount of fear that has been injected into society, seemingly permanently, disguised as "safety" (i.e. framing a negative as a positive) is one of, or perhaps THE, the most detrimental factors to the health of that society, and is actively harming the development of people growing up within it.

That's for a few reasons. 999 good or OK outcomes and 1 bad one can still be overall pretty damn bad, when scaled up to the level of a society. It becomes a Something Must Be Done scenario pretty quick. And I suspect in this specific case, the ratio of bad experiences.. maybe not terrible, but just bad.. was a lot higher than 1 in 1000. I mean, the flip side of that is, going home with a stranger in a big city is pre…

I disagree. A few of those 999 hookups will result in marriages and families. Others in relationships. This is arguably the whole point of society, to engage with other people, to be in relationships, to reproduce. What we see now, largely due to unrelenting fear (again, disguised as "safety"), is unhappiness, isolation, loneliness, depression and mental illness all dramatically increasing. This is not a coincidence.

Re: Who killed the rave?

#670

It's not really surprising, but the article seems to conflate raves with nightclubs, with numerous remarks about the cost of being out at a club all night and paying for things like expensive bottle service. Raves are not clubs, and historically have never done that well in club environments. People who are really into staying up all night dancing to techno music aren't buying expensive alcoholic drinks, they're buyi…

what is the definition of a rave at this point? Large crowds of people dancing in or outdoors to techno music is still a HUGE thing. There's video of tons of them on youtube. If often put them on while working. Is it only a rave if it's illegal?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv33bb-C_bo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Wy2WYqD2Rs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEacozH2uXs

There's also huge EDM and other types of events (so I guess not techno but the vibe seems related, at least to me)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7O-7rF0Hqk

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