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Post by snatekay »

coryfklein wrote: post #635

You stand at the fork in the tracks. Pulling the lever will divert the train from a track with 10,000 people on it, to a track with 1 person on it. Do you pull the lever?

Well, I know the one person will die if I pull the lever. But I don’t have any reason to think that pulling it will save the other ten thousand. In fact, it probably won’t—it’s a big train that will find its way to that track eventually, and the only way people have been saved in other countries is legislation to move everybody off the tracks, but that’s too much work for me. What pulling the lever will do is make me feel important. I can convince everybody to read my manifesto that’s equal parts Unabomber and the Joker; if I don’t pull the lever nobody will care what I have to say. What’s a human life in comparison to that?

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Post by andrelaszlo »

jml78 wrote: post #598
benterix wrote: post #590

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> who actually lead pretty decent lives. It's because the whole image is fake. In theory everything is fine but you know there is something very bad about the healthcare system, and the power of an institution to decide about someone else's life or death is just one aspect of it; prices inflated beyond imagination is another one (these two are related). So we pretend to live normal lives but in the back of our head w…

I can explain my perspective which echos kinda what you say. I am in my 40s, I make pretty good money. My life is good. My mom died last year. The medical system and her medicare "advantage" plan killed her. She had a stroke. However, within a day, she was up and walking around with assistance. However, the hospital was understaffed so two things happened. She fell going to the bathroom AND after that happened, they…

I'm so sorry about what happened to your mom. I'd be furious, too. It sounds like you did everything you possibly could and really fought for her.

It really makes me sad, but thank you for sharing your story.

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Post by catlikesshrimp »

coryfklein wrote: post #635

You stand at the fork in the tracks. Pulling the lever will divert the train from a track with 10,000 people on it, to a track with 1 person on it. Do you pull the lever?

There are 10,000 people waiting to take the place of the now unfortunate after the train runs over him.

So, more trains with hundreds of thousands will topple over until the tracks are fixed.

Your healthcare system principles are the problem. Healthcare can't function the same way Automotive industry or Oil Wells work. Heck, it can't even work the same as Auto insurance. For moral reasons only, because profitability is great.

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Post by catlikesshrimp »

fhub wrote: post #434

Keeping a lot of the incriminating evidence on him (including, it seems, the jacket) can't be a careless mistake (in my opinion). So what are some of the possible reasons? - He committed the crime and had another target in mind - He committed the crime and really didn't think he'd get away with it so he kept it to keep some unknown options open. - He committed the crime and didn't want any doubt that he was guilty wh…

Any sane person would discard the evidence by scattering it. Any homeless will take anyone of the items.

He was smart enough to carry away the feat without getting caught. He is not smart socially, his demise doesn't serve his purpose. Sounds like fit to be an engineer. And kind of suicidal.

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Post by oneeyedpigeon »

that_guy_iain wrote: post #616
kypro wrote: post #592

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought it was a joke when I saw the posts on the Reddit homepage celebrating the murder and even the murderer. Partly because I thought Redditors were above that type of thing, but also because I thought it was against their TOS. It's a real reminder of how little sympathy people can have about people who they consider the enemy or the "other". I'm almost certain nearly all of the people celebrating the murder bel…

Honest question, do you think there is a point where someone has earned death? For example, was the mission to kill Bin Laden wrong? Was the mission to kill the Iranian General in Iraq wrong? Is it wrong to kill someone via the death penalty for the rape and murder of a child? Many people fundamentally believe those things are good examples of killing other humans. And realistically, those people are responsible for…

Only about a quarter of the world's countries have the death penalty so even if "many people believe that's a good example of killing other humans", most do not. While I abhor the nature of privatised healthcare in the US, I think judging—and, certainly, killing—people based on potential indirect harm they've caused is a very slippery slope.

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Post by naming_the_user »

guitarlimeo wrote: post #633

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I don’t know why people bring this up as if it’s some sort of revelation. That’s literally what status is. People care more because you are actually a more meaningful individual in a real sense. The gunman is hardly a nobody either.

There might be an issue if murders in general were going uninvestigated. Realistically it’s more that you just don’t see it happen.

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Post by noisy_boy »

benterix wrote: post #590
munksbeer wrote: post #586

Usually I don't tend to get caught up in stories like this. But one thing has me completely fascinated, is how far off the deep end the internet went over the last few days. A murderer became a cult hero online. I saw many posts even suggesting "the snitch" should be hunted down and get what's coming to him/her. I try not to overreact to stuff online, but this took me a bit by surprise. Things really feel like a melt…

> who actually lead pretty decent lives. It's because the whole image is fake. In theory everything is fine but you know there is something very bad about the healthcare system, and the power of an institution to decide about someone else's life or death is just one aspect of it; prices inflated beyond imagination is another one (these two are related). So we pretend to live normal lives but in the back of our head w…

Its because the generally applicable standard way globally to know if things are bad for someone, doesn't work in US. Most people have homes, there is a car standing outside, they have clothes to wear, people are generally private (due to high focus on individualism) and unless you try, you can't really overhear your neighbour - so these issues hide behind closed doors.

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Post by nso »

dnissley wrote: post #9
gregw2 wrote: post #2

Other links: https://github.com/lnmangione https://x.com/pepmangione - more of a reposter than a commenter, for example * reposts link on mental health titled "Seasonality of brain function: role in psychiatric disorders" * view on what's wrong with society: "I believe this book will go down in history as the most important philosophical text of the early 21st century." [Tim Urban's "What's Our Problem?"] * [ironical…

TBH, this feels like some kind of psychotic break. He just kind of stops posting out of nowhere. On twitter there are some attempts from others to reach him that seem concerned for his wellbeing: https://x.com/DanielleFong/status/1866211089660477490

26? I was thinking schizophrenia as soon as I heard the age. The weirdness of the situation, unclear motive, and how it seems very out of character all scream onset of some kind of mental illness yes.

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Post by catlikesshrimp »

burningChrome wrote: post #423
sfryxell wrote: post #287

Maaaan, The NYPD will take credit for oxygen. Right now their talking like they solved it. a "combination of old-school detective work and new age technology" it was an employee at McDonalds. McDonalds solved this crime. Like god intended.

Does it matter? The point is, the NYPD was compiling evidence for the media to release. Part of that evidence nobody had included: - the original surveillance video of the murder - the video capture of him at the hostel (with his mask down) - the video capture of him inside the cab after the murder with his mask Without a decent photo, he probably would still be on the run. Had it not been for the NYPD releasing the…

You can use makeup to change your skin color (ashen, icteric, black). And fake facial hair covering bone features. And contact lenses.

Enough for a cab camera

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