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Re: M4 MacBook Pro

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Post by bluSCALE4 »

the_king wrote: post #652
giobox wrote: post #641

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> I feel like Apple kind of buried this in their press release The press release describes the single core performance as the fastest ever made, full stop: "The M4 family features phenomenal single-threaded CPU performance with the world’s fastest CPU core" The same statement is made repeatedly across most the new M4 line up marketing materials. I think thats enough to get the point across that its a pretty quick mac…

Exactly my point. Saying something is the fastest ever is marketing code (at least to me) for minor improvement over the previous generation. If you're 30% faster than the previous generation, I'd rather see that because my assumption is it's 5%.

Yeah, better than the glaring, 10x better than i7 Intel Mac. Like that's even a valid point of reference.

Re: M4 MacBook Pro

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Post by astrange »

angott wrote: post #630
wslh wrote: post #583

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Even if I have analytics disabled? Genuinely asking: are there any specifics on this? I understand that blocking at the firewall level is an option, but I recall someone here mentioning an issue where certain local machine rules don’t work effectively. I believe this is the issue [1]. Has it been “fixed”? [1] https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/01/14/apple-drops-exclu...

They're probably referring to the certificate verification that happens when you open any notarized application. Unless something changed recently, the system phones home to ensure its certificate wasn't revoked.

It doesn't do that on every app launch; there's a cache. It does it on the first launch of a binary from a new team.

(So multiple binaries with the same team don't check either.)

And I'd expect all logging is disabled on the CDN.

Re: M4 MacBook Pro

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Post by bhouston »

macNchz wrote: post #479
bhouston wrote: post #167

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> I haven’t had even a tinge of feeling that I need to upgrade after getting my M1 Pro MBP. I upgraded my M1 MBP to a MacBook Air M3 15" and it was a major upgrade. It is the same weight but 40% faster and so much nicer to work on while on the sofa or traveling. The screen is also brighter. I think very few people actually do need the heavy MBPs, especially not the web/full-stack devs who populate Hacker News. EDIT:…

> I think very few people actually do need the heavy MBPs, especially not the web/full-stack devs who populate Hacker News. I can fairly easily get my M1 Air to have thermal issues while on extended video calls with some Docker containers running, and have been on calls with others having the same issue. Kind of sucks if it's, say, an important demo. I mostly use it as a thin client to my desktop when I'm away from h…

That makes sense from your workflow needs.

I try to avoid docker in general during local dev and luckily it has worked out for me even with microservice architectures. It reduces dramatically CPU and RAM needs and also reduces cycle time.

Re: M4 MacBook Pro

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Post by makeitdouble »

hilux wrote: post #573
dmz73 wrote: post #562

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Mac OS calls home every time you execute an application. Apple is well on its way to ensure you can only run things they allow via app store, they would probably already be there if it wasn't for the pesky EU. If you send your computer/phone to Apple for repair you may get back different physical hardware. Those things very much highlight that "your" Apple hardware is not yours and that privacy on Apple hardware does…

> If you send your computer/phone to Apple for repair you may get back different physical hardware. I happen to be in the midst of a repair with Apple right now. And for me, the idea that they might replace my aging phone with a newer unit, is a big plus. As I think it would be for almost everyone. Aside from the occasional sticker, I don't have any custom hardware mods to my phone or laptop, and nor do 99.99% of peo…

It could help to compare to other makers for a minute: if you need to repair your Surface Pro, you can easily remove the SSD from the tray, send your machine and stick it back when it comes repaired (new or not)

And most laptops at this point have removable/exchangeable storage. Except for Apple.

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Post by pazimzadeh »

cojo wrote: post #438
throw0101a wrote: post #27

> All MacBook Pro models feature an HDMI port that supports up to 8K resolution, a SDXC card slot, a MagSafe 3 port for charging, and a headphone jack, along with support for Wi-Fi 6E and Bluetooth 5.3. No Wifi 7. So you get access to the 6 GHz band, but not some of the other features (preamble punching, OFDMA): * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_7 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_6E The iPhone 16s do have Wi…

I was quite surprised by this discrepancy as well (my new iPhone has 7, but the new MBP does not). I had just assumed that for sure this would be the year I upgrade my M1 Max MBP to an M4 Max. I will not be doing so knowing that it lacks WiFi 7; as one of the child comments notes, I count on getting a solid 3 years out of my machine, so future-proofing carries some value (and I already have WiFi7 access points), and…

they hold their value well so you could buy it this year and sell it next year when you buy the new one. you'd probably only lose ~$500

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Post by AdamJacobMuller »

halfmatthalfcat wrote: post #575
AdamJacobMuller wrote: post #371

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Yep. I've never kept any laptop as long as I've kept the M1. I was more or less upgrading yearly in the past because the speed increases (both in the G4 and then Intel generations) were so significant. This M1 has exceeded my expectations in every category, it's faster quieter and cooler than any laptop i've ever owned. I've had this laptop since release in 2020 and I have nearly 0 complaints with it. I wouldn't upgr…

My 2019 i9 going strong as ever. With 64gb ram, really don’t need to upgrade for at least a couple more years.

I had the 2019 i9. The power difference and the cooling difference is astounding from the 2019 to the M1 (and the M1 is faster).

I actually use my laptop on my lap commonly and I think the i9 was going to sterilize me.

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Post by astrange »

reaperducer wrote: post #616
flkiwi wrote: post #472

The weird thing about these Apple product videos in the last few years is that there are all these beautiful shots of Apple's campus with nobody there other than the presenter. It's a beautiful stage for these videos, but it's eerie and disconcerting, particularly given Apple's RTO approach.

I used to think the videos with all of the drone fly-bys was cool. But in the last year or so, I've started to feel the same as you. Where are all the people? It's starting to look like Apple spent a billion dollars building a technology ghost town. Surely the entire staff can't be out rock climbing, surfing, eating at trendy Asian-inspired restaurants at twilight, and having catered children's birthday parties in im…

The neighboring city charges $100k per newly constructed unit for park maintenance fees. So there actually are a lot of nice parks.

https://x.com/maxdubler/status/1778841932141408432

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Post by traceroute66 »

dmz73 wrote: post #562
lukev wrote: post #535

I really respect Apple's privacy focused engineering. They didn't roll out _any_ AI features until they were capable of running them locally, and before doing any cloud-based AI they designed and rolled out Private Cloud Compute. You can argue about whether it's actually bulletproof or not but the fact is, nobody else is even trying, and have lost sight of all privacy-focused features in their rush to ship anything a…

Mac OS calls home every time you execute an application. Apple is well on its way to ensure you can only run things they allow via app store, they would probably already be there if it wasn't for the pesky EU. If you send your computer/phone to Apple for repair you may get back different physical hardware. Those things very much highlight that "your" Apple hardware is not yours and that privacy on Apple hardware does…

> Apple is well on its way to ensure you can only run things they allow via app store

I'm very happy to only run stuff approved on Apple's app store... ESPECIALLY following their introduction of privacy labels for all apps so you know what shit the developer will try to collect from you without wasting your time downloading it.

Also have you seen the amount of dodgy shit on the more open app stores ?

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Post by microtherion »

medion wrote: post #597
jcmontx wrote: post #20

> "up to 1.8x faster when compared to the 16-inch MacBook Pro with M1 Pro" I insist my 2020 Macbook M1 was the best purchase I ever made

Except for the usb c charge port - magcharge was the best invention and I’ll never understand why it was removed.

It's the other way around, isn't it? MagSafe was removed in the 2016-2019 model years (not sure why; maybe to shave off another bit of thickness?), and then brought back in 2020 to MacBook Pro and 2022 to MacBook Air.

Personally, I practically never use MagSafe, because the convenience of USB C charging cables all over the house outweighs the advantages of MagSafe for me.

Re: M4 MacBook Pro

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Post by magarnicle »

lenerdenator wrote: post #340

I'm just some dude, looking at a press release, wondering when Tim Apple is gonna be a cool dude and release the MBP in all of the colors that they make the iMac in. APPARENTLY NOT TODAY. C'mon mannnnn. The 90s/y2k are back in! People want the colorful consumer electronics! It doesn't have to be translucent plastic like it was back then but give us at least something that doesn't make me wonder if I live in the novel…

In Apple world black means pro. That's why they give you black stickers with pro models and white for everything else.
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