Earlier quoted context omitted.
The thing is that OS is not important these days as you can apps on thin clients now and a lot of folks are spending most of the time within apps and doing nothing else.
I think that it is not exact. OS is as important as yesterday since you need them to run your containers that provide your services used by your thin clients. This is still the backbone of everything. But you have a point windows kinda lost the servers battle.
Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO
661–670 of 714 posts
Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO
#662Funny story. I used to see Steve almost every weekday for a couple of years. I can't speak to his business skills, but I can attest that he never once offered a tip for his daily black iced tea. We'd even have it ready for him before he showed up so he never had to wait! He would pay with cash, and I'd hand him his change and drink, and that was that. It's funny to me now: one of the richest men in the world and he n…
[flagged]
Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO
#663Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree generally with what you're saying but feel you were all over the place in your comment. The killer app on the iPhone was not "making calls" — I suspect instead it was Safari, the other 1st party apps, the touch screen and the slick integration of all of that to make it a no-brainer device that even my mom and dad could use (they were approaching their 70's when the iPhone debuted). Your analogy that ChatGPT (…
You're right it is a bit all over the place. "The killer app is making calls" is me quoting Steve Jobs on the Iphone 1 presentation. I get that it doesn't sound true now, knowing all we can do. It's true Iphone was a lot more, but that was his conviction at the time, and I think it makes sense. Their aim was to make the best phone in the world. I also think yeah, it is a bit like Macintosh in the sense that this is a…
I do remember the initial visual voicemail implementation being very appealing of course. Especially since it seemed they had enough leverage to get the carrier/s (just one at the beginning) to do whatever they needed.
Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO
#664Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO
#665The biggest problem with Ballmer's tenure was stack ranking, which led to the famous org chart where every org in MSFT points a gun at every org in MSFT. Things like LINQ and VScode are very nice but they weren't created by Ballmer. Ballmer's org allowed them to flourish to the point where they needed serious capital, then the org gave them that capital. Sun was like that too, but ultimately the management at Sun fai…
Intel also had the stack ranking. I think this management technique originated with Jack Welsh at GE. It does pit groups against each other. Even for individuals on the same team, it pays to sabotage each other's work. I heard of managers hiring people so that they could be offered up when layoffs came around. It was kind of like how the Celt's had human sacrifice. Families would adopt people so that they could be of…
I wonder when the business schools will teach that stack ranking was a failed experiment?
Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO
#666We've been locked in this cycle for centuries now - technological progress opens up some new uncharted territory that is up for grabs and there is the brief period of booming growth and diverse competition in this new thriving industry, then the boom is over and the system no longer encourages competition or innovation or intelligent decisionmaking, instead it encourages overreach and incompetence and cancerous uninhibited growth and parasitic behavior - stealing ideas and flooding the market with cheap inferior imitations, aggressive anti-competitive practices, increased lobbying and increased dependence on state funding. The industry becomes dominated by these bloated behemoths that add nothing of value to the world and are an enormous burden on society and eventually they become so unsustainably huge that even the combined wealth of every sovereign nation cannot keep them afloat and then they collapse.
I mean, seriously, everyone knows Windows has always been shit and people have never had anything but negative things to say about it, everyone knows that every product Microsoft has ever produced has been absolute trash and that they have never had any interest in doing anything innovative or original or contributing anything useful to the world. Microsoft isn't a company and people like Steve Ballmer are not CEOs or businessmen of any kind, they're just landlords.
Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO
#667Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO
#668Earlier quoted context omitted.
> but to attack the core idea as essentially wrong is anti math, science, and rationality The way Microsoft implemented stack ranking was anti math. You're supposed to measure the data then calculate the level of fit to a distribution, not artificially shoehorn the data into buckets to create the curve. If you analyze the data honestly you may find you have a bimodal distribution, or a heavily skewed distribution, wh…
> Stack ranking just clumsily says, I'm gonna give x% a bad score, y% a middle score, and z% the top score. as long as the ordering top/middle/bad is preserved, I don't see a problem. there are entire respected statistic methods based on rank ordering, not raw metrics. People don't have a right to fall on a normal distribution. Employers do have a right to grow or trim the workforce, and those numbers are driven by f…
Took this long down the thread for the thought-terminating cliches to start flying around.
Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO
#669Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Them along absolutely everyone else. ChatGPT was an iPhone moment. Old guy here, but it feels more like a Netscape moment than an iPhone moment. We'll end up with our pets.com of the LLM age, the whole thing will implode, and the few companies that were actually doing useful stuff with LLMs will survive.
Are those moments really that different? Motorola was practically the Netscape of the iPhone era, as those early Droids were everywhere. There were tons of others too, then it all imploded with only a few companies really surviving in the smartphone space.
These days it seems like anybody can throw "AI" into their company name (even if it's complete BS) and it has the same effect as adding ".com" to a company name did in the late nineties.
IMHO AI is a .com-like hype cycle that's orders of magnitude larger and more irrational than anything that happened post-iPhone.
That's not to say that there aren't good businesses in there (the same was true of .com, of course), but there's a lot of junk that's getting a lot of money thrown at it.
Re: Steve Ballmer was an underrated CEO
#670Earlier quoted context omitted.
When you do deal with them as a corporate customer, you really get the feeling that they understand the way things work in a big corp IT department and will be reliable and predictable. Just got done negotiating our E5 license last year and omfg is this laugh-out-loud untrue. Don't even get me started on how we have to check the Azure websites before every meeting with our M$ counterparts to figure out what Azure ser…
> We have people that won't use Excel on a Mac because once they found a place where it didn't work exactly like the Windows version. Then again, Excel on a Mac is significantly inferior to the Windows version to be honest. > Don't even get me started on how we have to check the Azure websites before every meeting with our M$ counterparts to figure out what Azure services they've changed the name of since the last ca…
Really? You mean you missed Azure AD renamed to Entra ID? How about Microsoft Azure Security Center + Azure Defender combined into Azure Defender for Cloud? All the products that were "Azure Defender something" that became "Microsoft Defender something"? Yammer -> Viva? MyAnalytics -> Viva Insight? How about the 20-something products that changed to the "Microsoft Purview" branding.
By our count, Microsoft renamed something like Azure 60 products in the last 5 years. And you didn't "experience" any of that?
we spend millions of dollars a year with them
Oh my...I sure hope you don't think spending "millions" of dollars a year with Microsoft makes you special; our mid-8-figure USD yearly spend sure doesn't move us to the front of too many lines. But they do let us know when they change product names...