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Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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This is cool, but I wish it were integrated into tools already used for coding and writing rather than having it be a separate app. This also demonstrates the type of things Google could do with Gemini integrated into Google Docs if they step up their game a bit. Honestly I’m scratching my head on OpenAI’s desire to double down on building out their consumer B2C use cases rather than truly focussing on being the infr…

ChatGPT itself is them copying their own API users, this is just them building out more features already built by users. My guess is they know they don't have a long term edge in models alone, so they are going to rely on expanding ChatGPT for better margins and to keep getting training data from users. They obviously want to control the platform, not integrate with other platforms

The Amazon model.

Same as it ever was.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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It's pretty trivial to get increased limits, I've used the API for a few consulting projects and got to tier 4 in a month. At that point you can burn near $200 a day and 2 million tokens per minute. You only need 45 days to get tier 5 and if you have that many customers after 45 days you should just apply to YC lol. Maybe you checked over a year ago, which was the wild wild West at the time, they didn't even have the…

> and if you have that many customers after 45 days you should just apply to YC lol. What for? If someone has already a business and customers he's already far off the average YC startup.

Who doesn't like free money and marketing?

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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LLMs are a more flexible platform than browsers. They can be prompted, finetuned or run locally. Even if a company wants to make their base model spit ads, it won't fly.

Depends how subtle they are about it, and what the rest of the ecosystem looks like. Perhaps the ad/ad-blocker analogy would be: You can have the free genuinely open source LLM trained only on Wikipedia and out-of-copyright materials, or you can have one trained on current NYT articles and Elsevier publications that also subtly pushes you towards specific brand names or political parties that paid to sponsor the mode…

I believe you've nailed it.

Google and Facebook grew organically for a number of years before really opening the tap on ad intrusions in to the UX. Once they did, a tsunami of money crashed over both, quarterly.

The LLM companies will have this moment too.

(But your post makes me want to put a negative-prompt for Elsevier publications in to my Custom Instructions, just in case)

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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The primary issue is that IDEA and other editors don’t allow the level of flexibility and customizability needed to make new experiences, unlike VSCode. Whether new solutions need to fork it or not is a different question. For example, Cursor absolutely has made significant changes for user benefit that stock VSCode with Copilot doesn’t have.

I’m a professional IntelliJ plugin developer, this is absolutely not true. IntelliJ is incredibly customisable, and you can always code raw swing to achieve whatever you want if there’s something that the base platform doesn’t provide.

Appreciate the added perspective, I wasn’t aware. But from my usage of IDEA’s product, I’ve yet to find an extension that makes any major changes to the UI/UX? I see them way more often in the VSCode community. In fact, I find the IDEA plugin system incredibly limited overall. Why do you think that’s the case? Or maybe I’ve been in a bubble and you can point to some interesting ones that I’ve maybe missed?

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Not sure how or why you’d want this integrated into Vim for instance.

idk, I can definitely see value in a lightweight LLM component for VIM to help me look up the correct command sequence to exit :P

HEY SIRI HOW DO I GET THE FUCK OUT OF VI

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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post #322

Kind of wish there weren't a dozen different tools named Canvas

Well as most of us know, Naming Things is one of the last 2 hard problems in computer science ;) [0] Tangentially related: I just found out yesterday that Apple has a piece of software called "Apple Devices" [2] which acts as a successor to iTunes for backup, sync, transfers, etc. Using traditional search engines to find information about my use case was almost as painful as searching for good information about working with an IBM i server...

[0] https://martinfowler.com/bliki/TwoHardThings.html

[II] https://support.apple.com/guide/devices-windows/welcome/wind...

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Just incant tar cvf and leave off the z or j: there’s a tiny binary header but Claude won’t mind. Check out the aider GitHub repository for details but 4o is responsive to text requests too.

ya for extra clarification - a tarball or .tar file is an uncompressed container for files. It can also be compressed (.tar.gz, .tar.bz2, etc) ultimately though the end user is not really concerned with this. the tarball needs to be un-tar'd regardless of whether it is compressed. (some nuance here as certain compression formats might not be supported by the host... but gzip and bzip2 are common) I haven't tested a c…

Actually I literally just paste the raw tar file in to Claude. Gpt does not like this as much.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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I’m a professional IntelliJ plugin developer, this is absolutely not true. IntelliJ is incredibly customisable, and you can always code raw swing to achieve whatever you want if there’s something that the base platform doesn’t provide.

Appreciate the added perspective, I wasn’t aware. But from my usage of IDEA’s product, I’ve yet to find an extension that makes any major changes to the UI/UX? I see them way more often in the VSCode community. In fact, I find the IDEA plugin system incredibly limited overall. Why do you think that’s the case? Or maybe I’ve been in a bubble and you can point to some interesting ones that I’ve maybe missed?

More than it not being possible, it's not regarded as desirable - IntelliJ users greatly value consistency. The fact that the experience is consistent across different languages is one of the things I like best about IntelliJ. Can you give me an idea of the sort of thing that you'd like to see that you haven't seen?

Here's an example of something I recently added (an inline inspector), that my main competitor (VS Code) said wasn't possible with the VS Code APIs: https://cursive-ide.com/blog/cursive-1.14.0-eap1.html. I have another major feature that I don't have good online doc for, which is also not possible with the VS Code API (parinfer, a Clojure editing mode). This gives you an idea of what it looks like, but this is old and my implementation doesn't work much like this any more: https://shaunlebron.github.io/parinfer.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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post #427

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> Basically it looks like a tool that can code for you if you are capable of writing the code yourself (given enough time). Yes, exactly. I use it the way I used to outsource tasks to junior developers. I describe what I need done and then I do code review. I know roughly where I want to go and how to get there, like having a sink full of dirty dishes and visualizing an empty sink with all the dishes cleaned and put…

This just raised a big red flag for me: > I use it the way I used to outsource tasks to junior developers. Is this not concerning to you, in a broader sense? These interactions were incredibly formative for junior devs (they were for me years ago) - its how to grew new senior devs. If we automate away the opportunity to train new senior devs, what happens to the future?

Maybe in the future you will have to pay to get trained, just like people have to pay for med school.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Solid point. We’re building in a space adjacent to this and it definitely feels hard to balance removing friction for adoption and delivering everything we want.

Okay, but why does what you want matter? I find a lot of teams are so focused on their vision that they fail to integrate their tool into my workflow. So I don’t use them at all. That’s fine for art, but I don’t need opinionated tools.

Who said what we want has anything to do with our vision. Please don’t make assumptions about what drives our product development.

What I want in a product comes from customer interviews. It’s not “my opinion” other than perhaps our team’s interpretation of customer requests. A customer can want certain pain points addressed and have friction to move to a particular solution at the same time.

Or does wanting a product that meets customer needs too opinionated?

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