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Post by HumblyTossed »

iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

I started programming on a TRS80 handheld then quickly moved to a C64. All I ever wanted to do was be a programmer. And as a programmer I still do!

But I use my phone just like you described your GF. They’re just not that interesting to me.

There is so much more tech out there that is more interesting.

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Post by wkirby »

vvladymyrov wrote: post #605
wkirby wrote: post #549

Give me a new mini. I’m begging you.

+1 . I have nothing to upgrade to from my iPhone 12 mini. Probably will replace battery and keep it running for couple more years.

Same boat. My storage is getting full (had a baby this year), so I’ll likely go refurb 13 mini with the biggest drive.

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Post by evulhotdog »

numbers wrote: post #625

Usually when the Apple event is going on, my iMessages is pretty active with different sets of friends talking about it. The non-techy group of friends only commented on the colors, size of the phone, and how there's nothing interesting to convince them to upgrade from the 13/14/15 models. The nerdy group really got hyped on the Apple Intelligence part, only qualm being that it's not going to be released on day one.…

I suspect it’s because they don’t have a lot to brag about this year feature wise.

It feels like a “off” or “s” year. Some minor improvements and technically a new phone but nothing to write home about.

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Post by lawgimenez »

busymom0 wrote: post #637
ben_w wrote: post #298

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even as an iOS app developer, there's a huge amount of stuff that stock iOS can do that I'm unaware of. At this point, I'm not going to be interested (dead battery isn't "interested") in the upgrade cycle until there's a new kind of sensor, e.g. thermal imaging or (technically possible in software) repurposing the WiFi as a wall penetrating radar. Even on the dev side, WWDC for the last few years feels more like "her…

I am an iOS developer too and I use an iPhone 13 before which I used an iPhone 6 until its support was dropped. I prefer developing with older devices as it helps me ensure my apps work well on slower devices. I haven't seen any reason to upgrade for the last 3 years. Switching from iPhone 6 to 13 was the most needed change for me due to the change in safe area insets (notch).

Also an iOS developer, upgraded last week from iPhone 12 to 15 Pro Max. I also preferred running my apps on the 12, to make sure app is very performative.

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Post by internetter »

NotYourLawyer wrote: post #514
peterweyand38 wrote: post #505

And I would pay a thousand dollars for this as opposed to finding a used earlier generation model for fifty bucks why? It's hard to tell if this is supposed to be satire or not.

You probably can’t even find an original iPhone for $50.

iPhone 6 is around $50 on eBay

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Post by baby »

iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

What people notice are the folding phones. People look at mine when I unfold it in the subway and I'm convinced that a folding phone user using their unfolded phone in public is going to be a massive marketing phenomena and convert a lot of people. iPhones are not cool anymore, they're just small legacy phones.

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Post by baby »

IgorPartola wrote: post #284
iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

The real advancements majority of users would notice: - Get rid of green text when messaging Android phones - More battery life. - Better camera (arguably already achieved) - lesser issue but fix the stupid bugs with storage/duplication with pictures and messages. I am already paying for a TB level plan with iCloud. How can my phone possibly run out of storage? That’s it. All the AI stuff is marginal at best and usel…

Or a folding phone? That would be huge

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Post by Dylan16807 »

moffkalast wrote: post #454
mihaaly wrote: post #432

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Not only when the battery runs bad. That can be renewed (sometimes, my 1st gen SE from the last batch runs the second battery pack, probably the last batch of batteries available). Also when you are forced by apps you need that want the newest hardware by some reason. I mean when most of them, because some could be missed for a while, but when most you use are just refuse to work, then it is time to get a new one. No…

5G is rapidly becoming this. I'm still using a phone that's only a few years old and maxes out at 4G. Lately it's started sporadically losing connection entirely in locations where it previously worked perfectly... meanwhile everyone around me has a five bar 5G signal on their newer models. They've started to do to 4G what they did to E, H and 3G, complete bandwidth reduction to fuckin zero so the latest protocol can…

> Planned obsolescence or what?

No, it's not an artificial barrier.

Cell phone spectrum is very limited. Making everyone switch every 8-9 years is reasonable.

In particular, 5G was available on many phones before 2020 and 6G might start deploying in 2030.

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Post by robotresearcher »

tpmoney wrote: post #540
jmyeet wrote: post #405

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Apple is engaging in feature-bloat to protect the $1000 price point. That's all that's going on here. Phones (particularly iPhones0 have stubbornly resisted getting cheaper. That's by design. Features get added simply to make it more expensive. We saw this with the Macbooks about a decade ago. The Macbook Air was fantastic because it was cheap. For Apple it was too cheap. So we got Touch bar. Did it solve any user pr…

Ridiculous, iPhones are getting cheaper all the time. Yesterday a base model iPhone 15 was $799, today it's $699. In 2022 a base model iPhone 14 was also $799, today that same phone is $599. Sure today the iPhone 15 is no longer the top of the line model, but that phone is absolutely cheaper today than it was yesterday, and if it was good enough at that price yesterday, there's no reason it's not good enough at a che…

> Today it's $1099, hardly a change from the "too cheap" $999 of its heyday.

It's cheaper if you consider inflation. $999 in 2020 dollars is about $1,210 today.

The original iPhone was $499 in 2007; around $750 today. The iPhone 16 starts at $799, so it's a bit more expensive in adjusted dollars. It's also enormously better, of course.

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