Panic at the Job Market

Post by amy-petrik-214 » Thu, Jul 18, 2024, 3:27 AM UTC

Terr_ wrote: post #476

rafaelmn wrote: post #301

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> As in, a person who has used and learned a dozen plus languages but only tacitly used C++ suddenly will be a complete invalid when trying to write in C++? I've switched at least 5 languages professionally and used probably 5 more for extended periods of time and wrote a decent chunk of C++ "back in the day". I'd say C++ is the least suitable for "learn on the job" approach out of any language I can think of (I'm lu…

> I'd say C++ is the least suitable for "learn on the job" approach out of any language I can think of Anecdote: I've got a couple languages and decades under my belt, and a very simple C/C++ Arduino project is making me doubt my sanity. Ex: Serial.printf("%s", String("Hello world...")); // Emits 4 nonsense bytes... But shorter literals work fine. ________________________ EDIT: To save readers some time--I didn't int…

Post by b20000 » Thu, Jul 18, 2024, 3:30 AM UTC

pm90 wrote: post #657

b20000 wrote: post #653

Pure speculation: what is the possibility the current administration told silicon valley to dial down hiring and salaries to help with inflation? the result being our job market has been destroyed. it would be worth investigating this.

absolutely 0 chance of this. Consider how much of the Government’s moves are leaked. Something like this would almost certainly fall in the hands of someone in the Press.

Post by segfaltnh » Thu, Jul 18, 2024, 3:32 AM UTC

kredd wrote: post #221

devwastaken wrote: post #115

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Years ago I was talking about exactly this issue and how the U.S. is producing far too many degrees than the market can receive. As usual the truth is ignored in favor of a comfortable lie, at the cost of others lives. Don't go to university. Their value is no longer what it used to be, and they have figured out how to suppress students under a thousand pounds of administrative grift. We need to strip all public fund…

As much bad rep as schools get nowadays, if you get into a good university (think of top 50 in the world), it will open up a lot of doors for you. Very anecdotal, but I have open offers from people whom I know from uni years. Connections matter, especially in bad market days. Everything else (bootcamps, diploma mills and etc.) are just noise though, I would say it’s not worth the money. It’s also easy for me to say,…

Post by dalyons » Thu, Jul 18, 2024, 3:49 AM UTC

Aurornis wrote: post #634

bedobi wrote: post #151

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except that referral hiring isn't a thing almost anywhere I know because I've referred people I KNOW are great SE's and I'm literally willing to vouch my own employment for, and they still get treated no different to any other candidate

I remember the first time I worked at a company that did referral hiring that skipped the interview process. The first few hires were amazing. Everyone thought we had struck gold: Just find people your employees can vouch for, and hire them! Why didn't anyone else think of this? Then we got a referral hire who turned out to be rather bad at everything, from coding to getting along with people. And another who was rea…

Post by nsxwolf » Thu, Jul 18, 2024, 3:50 AM UTC

bedobi wrote: post #151

Peroni wrote: post #86

Hiring people (mostly engineers) has been my full-time job now for about 15 years and I found myself emphatically agreeing with a lot of Matt's criticisms of modern hiring. Most tech interviews are as relevant to job performance as if hiring a baker required interviewing them about how electron orbitals bind worked gluten together then rejecting bakers who don’t immediately draw a valid orbital configuration. Matt's…

except that referral hiring isn't a thing almost anywhere I know because I've referred people I KNOW are great SE's and I'm literally willing to vouch my own employment for, and they still get treated no different to any other candidate