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Julian Assange has reached a plea deal with the U.S., allowing him to go free

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I remember at the time that it expired, all of the moderators on their official subreddit also got replaced. The insurance file also got changed out at some point as the hash changed.

The wikileaks subreddit was never official, and it was a train wreck. Two very dodgy Trump supporters "volunteered to help with the increased traffic" around the time of the Podesta releases and basically took over.

Didn’t those Podesta leaks turn out to be legitimate?

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Clinton is not democracy. Anti-Clinton is not anti democracy. Being anti the US government is not anti democratic. And no, letting USA or any other nation for that matter commit war crimes quietly does not support democracy.

When Russia enables it, amplifies it, builds their disinformation and propaganda machine around those facts and there’s no counter weight it gets into the realm of anti-democratic adjacent. There’s nothing simple when it comes to international politics. But foreign meddling by an adversary is a pretty bright line.

The failure of the United States to provide a positive counterweight to propaganda due to launching two wars of aggression filled with warcrimes is not Russia's fault, nor Assange's.

The United States is responsible for sowing the good, not Russia for not hiding the bad.

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My issue is that he was influenced by Russia. Aka they threatened his life and he then proceeded to leak information about the US but keep Russian secrets. I mean I don’t blame him for not wanting to be murdered by Russia but he isn’t a freedom fighter when he only leaks things for countries that don’t directly threaten his life.

The relentless "Russia bad!" parroting is very exhausting. Not saying it couldn't be true, but it just seems like such a low effort copout for anything that seems to be rooted in malevolence in 2024. Every single topic seems to be aimed at Russia on reddit and HN.

> on reddit

Agree with it, I want to read news about different countries, but it looks like the people\bots are obsessed with Russia on reddit.

Also it's interesting to see how people react to the same news about civilian deaths. People are happy when Russian civilians die. I with these forums had a feature to hide/swap country names in a news/posts so people can realize how evil they are.

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What? Wikileaks had a huge drop of shit about Russia they were going to publish. Assange was told he would be falling out a window if he published it. Then he buried it. He is only about publishing leaks about western countries that don’t directly tell him they will murder him. That isn’t a free society.

If the response was "publish this and we will credibly kill you" then I'm not going to blame Assange for burying it. I'm going to blame whatever country he was in for the fundamental problem of not being able to protect people on its soil from Russian assassination.

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I think Snowden is a hero who deserves a medal from the president. I think Assange deserves what he got. The differences in what they did and how make the distinction. Snowden saw something the public needed to know and filtered it through a journalist who did everything reasonable to filter and publish what the public needed to know. And the public really did need to know it. Assange tried to find anything and every…

Information (and truth) need no filtering. Such "filtering", in my opinion, is equal to tempering and it taints the truth.

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> he was influenced by Russia This argument is completely nonsensical, this idea that who revealed the crime matters more than the actual crime . What does it matter who "influenced" him, if the information was legit? And is it your opinion that none of this information should be released unless it covers all countries equally? Do you honestly think he should have thought, I can't reveal this crime until I find an eq…

> What does it matter who "influenced" him Because they may have influenced the timing and content of the leaks to further their own ends. Revealing sensitive information is not a neutral act. It has consequences far beyond the exposure of bad actors.

Because the US has never used the timing or content of leaks to further their own ends.

Grow up.

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>He was not permitted to fly commercial airlines or routes to Saipan and onward to Australia. Not permitted by who, and on what basis?

Presumably either the US or UK as part of his plea deal or bail conditions. Maybe some form of house arrest where he’s not to be in public.

I would bet it is Saipan local goverment, they probably don't have (or dont want to expend) the resources to secure him.

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If you care about this news and you are able to do this financially, consider supporting Julian's fee for having have had to take a private plane for this entire process: > Julian Assange has embarked on flight VJ199 to Saipan. If all goes well it will bring him to freedom in Australia. But his travel to freedom comes at a massive cost: he will owe USD 520,000 which he is obligated to pay back to the Australian gover…

With how much the AU gov loves to waste our tax money on useless crappy programs, this would be the one instance where I would wholeheartedly support giving the $500k of tax money away.
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