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I’ve had my iCloud account corrupted twice since they switched from dot Mac. Zero chance I’ll ever trust Apple with anything serious. I don’t even trust them to keep my contacts safe from corruption. Never going to trust them with my passwords.
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I don't mind paying for quality software, which I considered 1Password v7 to be. However, their recent v8 launch has soured me on the company pretty severely. The macOS app is a pretty dramatic downstep and their focus on a browser extension over a system/menubar app is frustrating to say the least. I don't know if Apple Passwords will be a perfect fit for me, I'm hoping someone shares a deep dive on the product soon…
…but v8 is perfectly fine! I remember a lot of buzz about v8 being slow “because it’s electron” but it’s not slow. I use it on multiple laptops without any issues at all.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of Electron, and I'd prefer it have remained a native app, but that alone wouldn't be enough for me to jump ship. And I'm not even claiming alternatives are better than v8; it's simply that v7 was much better, and I'm actively looking for alternatives.
I've been an avid 1Password user for over 10 years, but since they gone full-throttle targeting the enterprise market, I'm getting more and more annoyed. It's increasingly buggy (right now, it thinks I haven't migrated from 1p7 which causes annoying interstitials that I can't close. Over a month and no fix yet.). They killed standalone vaults. Obvious feature requests (e.g archive an entire vault) sit there for years…
My biggest worry about passwords by Apple is that I have even less pull when they screw it up. Not that I have a lot of input in 1Password, of course, but I bet if I get loud enough on HN for long enough, I could get the attention of the CEO. Try that with Apple. As a long time user (sufferer) of Screen Time, I am acutely aware of how badly Apple can screw up software, and how long they can let it go unfixed. Tim Coo…
I'm not really a fan of 1Password overall though. The product is still fine but has gotten gradually worse over the years and their corporate posture does not inspire any confidence. Consumer apps that focus on Enterprise and are only interested in SaaS revenue almost always follow the same path of endlessly degrading the user experience once they reach a certain point. I haven't seen anything that makes me think they will be an exception, but I give them credit for actually having a real support channel, at least as of a few years ago.
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I don't mind paying for quality software, which I considered 1Password v7 to be. However, their recent v8 launch has soured me on the company pretty severely. The macOS app is a pretty dramatic downstep and their focus on a browser extension over a system/menubar app is frustrating to say the least. I don't know if Apple Passwords will be a perfect fit for me, I'm hoping someone shares a deep dive on the product soon…
What’s the problem with it exactly? I’m using it on iPad, macOS, iOS and windows 10 and 11. Seems per much the same as it’s always been. I’ve got the family using it too. Just curious what issues other people are experiencing.
It seems their focus is to drive this into the browser extension but that doesn't cover all of my use cases - I very often need to generate a login password _outside_ the context of a browser and doing so now requires me to open the application and create a new password and save that record while before it was one click away in the menubar.
I'm also annoyed that we're no longer able to define which vaults are included in "all vaults" and the inability to simultaneously disable the browser extension from injecting their UI into websites (the login icons, blue input fields, etc) while keeping the prompt to save a login when a new one is detected.
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Can you expand more on the Screen Time issue?
I've had a bug where unpausing a particular app requires doing so 2+ times before I can access the app. The bug has persisted on multiple devices for multiple years and it makes for a pretty clunky user experience. That's one example that comes to mind for me.
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People are driven away from open standards to vendors like Apple because so much open stuff just sucks so goddamn bad . So will Apple one day fuck me over? Perhaps, but in the meantime their shit just works and I am going to use it because I don’t have time to spend hours troubleshooting why manufacturer A doesn’t work with free publisher B when free driver C is loaded.
That was a bit part of my move to Mac from Windows back 24 years ago. It was such a pain trying to get all the bits and pieces working together and with the Mac, yes it was more expensive (although honestly, not that much more expensive) but stuff just worked out of the box and I didn’t have regular crashes. I’m sure things have improved in Wintel land since 2000–2001, but my Apple experience has been remarkably stre…
Can you store things other than passwords, e.g. credit cards? I doesn't seem so, but I only gave it a quick look. Would love to switch but that is a hard requirement for me. Also, does it only work well with Safari?
Apple Wallet is for debit/credit cards, it already exists and works.
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Apple thinks "One Ring to rule them all" will work on mindless enough. But otherwise, yeah. Those who aren't mindless wouldn't want that.
People always ignore the simpler explanation: it’s more time and work to make something a second time on a platform you don’t know and control.
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> and you could never use a third party storage service with BW AFAIK https://github.com/dani-garcia/vaultwarden
I should have been clearer, I meant that it didn’t work with arbitrary cloud storage providers like iCloud, Dropbox, Google Drive and so on. I’m a tech person and even I don’t want to be responsible for running a Vaultwarden server, the average user definitely doesn’t want to.