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US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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I don't get this line of thinking. Should suicide be allowed too? That would make this argument congruent, otherwise I can understand it.

Are there places where suicide is criminalized?

Suicide is illegal in many places https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_legislation

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Socialists really hate freedom, don't they? Somehow, it's always "capitalism" in question when it is, in fact, freedom. It's none of the government's business what somebody takes into their body. All drugs should be decriminalized anyway. Smoking and alcohol take millions of lives every year, yet we say "people have the right" to drink or smoke. Why is marijuana different, which is way less dangerous than alcohol, wh…

I don't get this line of thinking. Should suicide be allowed too? That would make this argument congruent, otherwise I can understand it.

"Should suicide be allowed too? "

If we say that people own their body and their life - then yes, they can decide.

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Democrats will dangle the possibility of marijuana legalization to entice voters to turn out for the election. But I doubt legalization will actually happen; I'd be delighted to be proven wrong. I'm just too jaded, I guess.

It's already been legalized at the state level in 24 states, most of those states governed by Democrats. There's clearly a lot of support for actual action on this issue, including among elected officials.

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post #646

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't get this line of thinking. Should suicide be allowed too? That would make this argument congruent, otherwise I can understand it.

Are there places where suicide is criminalized?

And what's the recidivism rate?

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The greatest thing about tight, upcoming elections is that governments actually start to do a tiny bit of what people want. Great result.

Governments actually do a lot of what people want, alas. See https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691138732/th...

Except that author argues for "the market" to be more in charge than governments, which baffles me because the market is also people. I'd be surprised if people pretend the market is still rational: see nfts. Or the modern stock market.

Not to mention the market irrationally rewards short term good (or even bad) and long term bad behavior, but it does it consistently, so no long term good behavior can ever win out. See: oil and gas industry.

All solutions that try to handwave people out of the equation, which includes market based ones, are the wrong path imo. The author was heading in the right direction when writing about economic education and fighting misinformation, imo that's the correct path, we can't permanently fix stupid since our brains are all basically completely broken, but we can mitigate. Utopia may be unreachable but I think we can improve.

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Question: If this change goes into effect, will it effectively open up banking for all the cannabis related/cannabis adjacent companies? Seems like a really smart move to bring them into the financial system.

This makes medical cannabis possible, but only under the same rules as pharmaceutical drugs. It does not address recreational cannabis at all, and most medical marijuana retailers are also not pharmacies.

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Weed being illegal on a federal level has had some interesting effects. Because of these laws, all legal weed has to be grown, processed, and retailed within a single state. So much industry and local employment has been created by the legal barriers in place. It’s probably still a net positive to release the federal restriction, but I hope all these small/mid sized businesses don’t get gulped up by big tobacco or ot…

Under Wickard even all-in-state marijuana trade would still fall under the Interstate Commerce clause and be subject to federal criminal statutes, regulations, and taxes.

My one big Supreme Court wish is that Wickard gets shot down. I could actually see it happen with the current court.

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The greatest thing about tight, upcoming elections is that governments actually start to do a tiny bit of what people want. Great result.

It leaves a bad taste in the mouth, doesn't it? Why haven't they taken action until now? People aren't children to be appeased by such gestures.

You just described whole maga movement and some others. It works en masse, thats why trump won first time without investing heavily into marketing, telling folks what they wanted to hear

Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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The greatest thing about tight, upcoming elections is that governments actually start to do a tiny bit of what people want. Great result.

It leaves a bad taste in the mouth, doesn't it? Why haven't they taken action until now? People aren't children to be appeased by such gestures.

The request was made 2 years ago, not during election season. Building good regulations requires research, conversations with stakeholders, and other things which take time.
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