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#662The most interesting thing about this is that everyone just forgot all the anger about the spying from a few years ago during the Cambridge analytica thing. Did that just go away?
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#663If hardware manufacturers actually wanted this, Meta would be announcing a licensing deal. This is a threat to Apple: if Apple doesn't relent on advertising/privacy in VisionOS, then Meta will do to VR what Google did for smartphone's: sell the market to maintain advertising access. Meta doesn't care about money or mindshare on VR. They just want ad access.
Apple and to a lesser extent Google have high trust. Nobody trusts Meta at all. So who would adopt their OS?
Apple and Google have high trust?
In what world?
In terms of privacy, Apple has more trust, yes, but the daily stream of zero days on iPhones hurt it by a good margin. I won't even start talking about Google's privacy issues...
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#664How does this compare to Microsoft's and Apple's? Is there any other player in AR/VR/MR OS?
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#665The most interesting thing about this is that everyone just forgot all the anger about the spying from a few years ago during the Cambridge analytica thing. Did that just go away?
Maybe because it was woke propaganda and now we realized everyone is doing that shit
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#666Earlier quoted context omitted.
People seem to think I have trouble understanding what the terms refer to. That's not my point -- you're right in that they are not complex. But why is virtual reality associated with small screens and head tracking? Why wasn't Everquest on a CRT "virtual reality"? A lot of software calculates probabilities over some distribution, why isn't all that "artificial intelligence"? Why isn't my Subaru's cruise control and…
Everything is an evolution and everyone wants to be the next form of that evolution, even if it’s not. Marketing is always going to be one step ahead and once we actually do achieve what the last generation is selling, someone new will be selling you on the next step. Today’s “VR” will look extremely different from 2050 VR. That doesn’t mean today we don’t have some form of VR though. I don’t mind it, it’s a conceptu…
In many cases practitioners already have appropriately non-magical language, for clarity in communication.
*-reality interfaces are "immersive", they don't alter or recreate reality.
What artificial intelligence is is (statistical) "inference".
The cloud are various *-providers, "hosting providers", "storage services", etc. In aggregate, "external" or "3rd party" or "outsourced" (computing) infrastructure.
I said it elsewhere -- what frustrates me is that the rest is marketing, but some engineers are willing to accept and even reproduce it for some reason. When Facebook says they're releasing a new reality development platform for the metaverse though, we should roll our eyes, even if the technology is exciting.
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#667Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is that what the majority of Vision Pro users are doing in VR? Projecting flat monitors around.
I can see the point of projecting a huge flat monitor in VR to, say, write code on it. A mobile app, not so much.
Well, kinda required for proper usage IMO. Let's forget display limitations and pretend I can project a giant code editor straight onto my eyeballs. I don't care about it if I have to take it off, to do any of the following:
- Watch YouTube as I do something else
- Listen to music and have control over the player
I can see myself wearing a headset playing TFT, watching YouTube and have a build guide open in a browser. I can currently do it on an iPad and Vision Pro - https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1akjfpj/le... (different game, but you get the idea).
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#669Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple and to a lesser extent Google have high trust. Nobody trusts Meta at all. So who would adopt their OS?
As a Quest user: mostly younger devs. I see 18-22yo developers who do not care about the history of Meta making very impressive games that attract large amounts of their peers, adding micro-transactions along the way to fund their development, and it works, they make a large amount of money and have very active communities on Discord.
What are the names of the games?
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#670Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would be worried about forking over $1000 to a fly by night company for a product which could easily break. (xreal is also in this category imo but at least its a bit cheaper)
FWIW despite the weird name that invokes cheap Amazon noname brand vibes, these guys have been around for a few years now. They do have other headsets that are in the same ballpark price-wise as XREAL, too - e.g. GOOVIS Young, which is pretty decent for on-the-go use with a smartphone etc. I've owned that one for three years and used it many times with no issues before splurging on G3 Max. And yeah, $1K is quite a lo…
Thank you! that detail helps a lot. I wish these companies were better at giving off a professional vibe when they make genuinely good products