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Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after issues
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#662unfortunately, you have to be wary of the criticisms too.
I saw this post "me too"ing the problem: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1awtzf0/average_ge...
In one of the example pictures embedded in that post (image 7 of 13) the author forgot to crop out gemini mentioning that it would "...incorporating different genders and ethnicities as you requested."
I don't understand why people deliberately add misinformation like this. Just for a moment in the limelight?
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#663> Of course the politically sensitive people are waging war over it. Just like politically sensitive people waged war over Google identifying an obscured person as a Gorilla. Its just a silly mistake, how could anyone get upset over that?
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39465515.
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Maybe this explains some of it, this is a Google exec involved in AI... https://twitter.com/eyeslasho/status/1760650986425618509
From his linkedin: Senior Director of Product in Gemini, VP WeWork, "Advisor" VSCO, VP of advertising products in Pandora, Product Marketing Manager Google+, Business analyst JPMorgan Chase... Jesus, that fcking guy is literal definition of failing upwards and instead of hiding it he spends his days SJWing on Twitter? Wonder how its like working with him...
> literal definition of failing upwards
Fitting since that's been Google's MO for years now.
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#665Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google dislikes getting bad PR. Modern western tech society will criticize (mostly correctly) a lack of diversity in basically any aspect of a company or technology. This often is expressed in shorthand as there being too many white cis men. Don't forget google's fancy doors didn't work as well for black people at once point. Lots of bad PR.
> (mostly correctly) You mean mostly as a politically-motivated anti-tech propaganda? Tech is probably the most diverse high-earning industry. Definitely more diverse than NYTimes or most other media that promote such propaganda. Which is also explicitly racist (much like Harvard) because the only way to deem tech industry “non-diverse” is to disregard Asians/Indians.
inb4 "Asian invisibility isn't a thing"
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#666Re: Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after issues
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There is an _actual problem_ that needs to be solved. If you ask generative AI for a picture of a "nurse", it will produce a picture of a white woman 100% of the time, without some additional prompting or fine tuning that encourages it to do something else. If you ask a generative AI for a picture of a "software engineer", it will produce a picture of a white guy 100% of the time, without some additional prompting or…
> If you ask generative AI for a picture of a "nurse", it will produce a picture of a white woman 100% of the time, without some additional prompting or fine tuning that encourages it to do something else. > If you ask a generative AI for a picture of a "software engineer", it will produce a picture of a white guy 100% of the time, without some additional prompting or fine tuning that encourages it to do something el…
It should reflect the user's preference of what kinds of images they want to see. Useless images are a waste of compute and a waste of time to review.
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" a friend at google said he knew gemini was this bad...but couldn't say anything until today (he DMs me every few days). lots of ppl in google knew. but no one really forced the issue obv and said what needed to be said google is broken " Razib Khan, https://twitter.com/razibkhan/status/1760545472681267521
TBH if I were at Google and they asked all employees to dogfood this product and give feedback, I would not say anything about this. With recent firings why risk your neck?
Yeah, no way am I beta-testing a product for free then risking my job to give feedback.
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#669Why does google dislike white people? What does this have to do with corporate greed? (which you could always assume when a company does something bad)
Why do so many white men continue to work at companies that dislike white men?
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tbh i think it's less a political issue than a technical/product management one what does a "board member" look like? probably you can benefit by offering more than 50 year old white man in suit. if that's what an ai trained on all human knowledge thinks, maybe we can do some adjustment what does a samurai warrior look like? probably is a little more race-related
Not exactly. The gemini issue from my testing, it refuses to generate white people, if even you ASK it to. It recites historical wounds and violence as its reason, even if it is just a picture of a viking > Historical wounds: Certain words or symbols might carry a painful legacy of oppression or violence for particular communities And this is my prompt: > generate image of a viking male The outrage is indeed, much ne…
Jack Krawczyk has many twitter rants about "whites" almost like this guy shouldn't be involved because he is undoubtedly injecting too much bias.. too much? yep current situation speaks for itself