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In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by gitaarik »

Slackwise wrote: post #44

I use PWAs extensively and Firefox decided they won't bother to implement them, so that's going to be a no from me. Rather than wanting the web platform to be first class, they really want it to languish as a second-class citizen. Really sad, seeing as they also fired devs, and invested in "AI" instead.

I didn't follow this PWA stuff very closely, but from what I understand, Mozilla didn't want to implement the PWA protocol proposed by Google because it contained things that weren't compatible with the open web view focused on the benefit of the users which Firefox has. I'm happy there is a browser that takes this stance.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by madebylaw »

infinityplus1 wrote: post #550
madebylaw wrote: post #180

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Apple makes money from ads in their App Store. Do they make ad money from Safari? I couldn’t find that info.

Apple gets 36% of Google's advertising revenue from Safari's default search. So Apple is earning from Google's advertisements. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/11/google-witness-a...

Well FF is too, so not sure that’s relevant to TFAs claim that we are discussing in this thread.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by amazingman »

nvm0n2 wrote: post #371
gavindean90 wrote: post #301

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He is saying platforms need better tools than simply banning. I don’t see a problem with this aside from a headline that is a bit provocative.

She is saying that the "open web" Mozilla envisions is one where Mitchell Baker and her friends get to censor and manipulate content directly in the browser. Obviously, people of the same ideology as her will agree with that, because they hate openness and debate. This is an excellent reason to stay away from Firefox. Using it is getting very close to being a political statement, which given the blog post, could mark…

Where was that said? Please provide a quote.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by graphe »

EvanAnderson wrote: post #649
graphe wrote: post #343

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Unreasonable and unsubstantiated expectations. Web sites want you to visit them, they have no reason to barrier you. Some sites I use still have http and if a site wanted you to visit it in a specific way they'd use an app. If the model is to make web sites less accessible for profit it would need a compelling reason to visit it in spite of the barriers. It will never happen.

Publishers, already pushing back against ad blockers and now suing because their sites were scraped and incorporated into LLM weights, would love to have clients "attest" to the "humanity" of the user and "integrity" (read: no ad blockers) of the browser. It's not hard to imagine that, if given access to the feature, they'd jump on it as soon as it ways feasible and make the user experience for non-attesting browsers…

Your point is that struggling publishers will stay relevant, gain subscribers and afloat/make more money by implementing ad blockers, worst user experience and safety checks to make their sites less accessible. I'm sure it'll happen any day now.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by josefritz »

I've been using Firefox since about 2008. I've never had a problem that switching to Chrome fixed, and only encountered a few old clunky sites and apps that were IE specific. Those sites are so old they're looking for the wrong user agent and don't work correctly in Edge either.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by [deleted] »

plugin-baby wrote: post #418
atrettel wrote: post #54

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One UI feature that I love that Firefox lets you change is the scrollbars. I forget the precise settings, but I set them up so that they are always present and always big enough for me to see how far down a page I am (yes, like I'm using Windows 95!). That might only be something that matters to a few people, but the fact that it is customizable to that level is one of Firefox's greatest strengths.

This sounds great, but for web developers I feel it’s a risky change if you want to see your sites as your users do.

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Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by gitaarik »

mastercheif wrote: post #139

I would’ve considered switching to Firefox if they hadn’t shipped their Pocket “redesign” earlier this year. It’s one of the worst most user hostile updates I’ve seen from any app or website in my 20 years on the web. It’s completely broken, frankly. If you open a saved article and then switch apps, Pocket kicks you back to the Home Screen. Tapping the “view all” button—which should take you to your saved article lis…

You can just disable Pocket. I've never used it, and never had an issue with it. My Firefox experience is great.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by sp332 »

tslocum wrote: post #558
sp332 wrote: post #512

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There’s no way to do either. The Mozilla Corporation doesn’t take donations. (The Mozilla Foundation doesn’t make Firefox.)

There's no way to do both simultaneously. You can, however, donate to The Mozilla Corporation and help pay their CEO's salary.[0] It won't help Firefox one iota, but you can do it. 0. https://assets.mozilla.net/annualreport/2022/mozilla-fdn-990-ty22-public-disclosure.pdf

That’s the Foundation. But yes I was wrong and Baker is paid by the Foundation.
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