Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

Post by keepamovin » Thu, Nov 23, 2023, 3:38 AM UTC

EvanAnderson wrote: post #180

keepamovin wrote: post #11

Now that he’s back with MSOAI I think we’ve got AGI disaster in 7 years. Thin possibility of good path for humanity. I wish he’d stuck to his guns and gone his own way, no MS, and no OAI. No disrespect to MS, they good, but this path is bad.

We don't need AGI for an AI disaster. Enough humans using AI-based tools to drive important decisions (read: outsourcing thinking) will stand in place of the "G" just fine. Corporations have been acting in this capacity (making massive changes to the ecosystem, human lives, etc) just fine. The corporate "organisms" have caused humans to erect massive projects to shave a few milliseconds from HFT, for example. AI-base…

Post by ratg13 » Thu, Nov 23, 2023, 3:38 AM UTC

LeafItAlone wrote: post #470

QuadrupleA wrote: post #376

From Paul Graham's Twitter, three days ago: "No one in the world is better than Sam at dealing with this kind of situation." Jessica Livingston retweet: "The reason I was a founding donor to OpenAI in 2015 was not because I was interested in AI, but because I believed in Sam. So I hope the board can get its act together and bring Sam and Greg back." Also from a sibling comment: https://twitter.com/search?q=from:paulg…

Mature adults can certainly think that someone else is not fit for one job (running YC) and is fit for another (handling OAI). Good business people are even better at it, knowing that makes them more money. PG certainly seems to fit that.

Post by serf » Thu, Nov 23, 2023, 4:10 AM UTC

jmye wrote: post #640

cbsmith wrote: post #602

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It makes sense. It's not like corporations have responsibilities that can have life & death impacts on people, or that can radically transform the lives of people who don't even work there. Oh wait...

Does YC? Or are you just irrelevantly musing? Or is this where we pretend that leading YC is even vaguely similar to being a rogue cop, in terms of potential impact on people’s lives?

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Nov 23, 2023, 4:43 AM UTC

ChuckMcM wrote: post #515

nabla9 wrote: post #509

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"like" or "hate" are words for people and petty personal conflicts. It's counterproductive to take business conflicts personally. PG removed Sam Altman silently without harming his future. There is no reason to be enemies after the issue is solved. There may be deals to be made again.

> It's counterproductive to take business conflicts personally. 100% agree with this, but it is productive to understand what was behind a business conflict. Personal like or dislike can change which alternative of a choice of equal alternatives, someone might make. As Tony Soprano would say, "It's just business."

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Nov 23, 2023, 5:16 AM UTC

nabla9 wrote: post #509

ChuckMcM wrote: post #469

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I sometimes think that at this level of the game everyone hates everyone else and its all politics. You don't "come out" for or against anyone publicly, you leave all of that under cover. It makes knowing who your friends and enemies are more difficult and it restricts your ability to maneuver. Another quote from my grandfather was "Mutual respect does not require that you like someone."

"like" or "hate" are words for people and petty personal conflicts. It's counterproductive to take business conflicts personally. PG removed Sam Altman silently without harming his future. There is no reason to be enemies after the issue is solved. There may be deals to be made again.