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Re: The Cloud Computer

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I have to say, as someone who will never buy one of these, I just want to see pictures of all the cool features they are talking about. And yet, their website seems strangely devoid of product photos! Or I have been unable to find them.

I worked photojournalism in university, and it really strikes me when people talk about how cool their novel interconnect is and how clean the design is, but their long writeup doesn't feature any pictures?? Would love to see what it looks like.

Re: The Cloud Computer

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This true for other hypervisors too. Enterprises are still paying hundreds of millions to VMware, who knows what's going on in there? I wouldn't have picked Opensolaris, but it's a lot better than other vendors that are either fully closed source, or thin proprietary wrappers over Linux with spotty coverage and you're not allowed to touch the underlying OS for risk of disrupting the managed product.

What's more important is that the team actually knows Illumos/Solaris inside out. You can work wonders with a less than ideal system. That said, Illumos is of high quality in my opinion.

Seems risky considering how small of a developer pool actively works on illumos/Solaris. The code is most definitely well engineered and correct, but there are huge teams all around the world deploying on huge pools of Linux compute that have contributed back to Linux.

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Salary is that high in the US because we have no social net or price caps here. Your on your own for everything. Healthcare, retirement, overpriced homes, out of control rent, etc

Wouldn't an employee making that $201k salary in another country be responsible for paying all the taxes to support the socialized healthcare, etc? In other words the take home pay may be significantly less.

Here's the calculations for New Zealand in USD:

Income tax: 34% total (top marginal rate of 39%).

Leaving $133k.

Other taxes (GST~VAT 15%, city rates, high petrol excise, etcetera) will easily take another $10k. Interest on your home is not deductible (NZ has very few deductables). People earning six figures will often pay for private health insurance and medical fees on top of the socialised healthcare - maybe another few thousand.

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Yes I understand, but will your included service actually verify that everything is set up correctly, meets advertised parameters, and sign off on it? (Such that the customer can start using it immediately afterwards.) Or does the customer need to take on some risk and hazard associated with installation, configuration, initial boot up, etc.? e.g. If someone buys with the intention of using it up to X FLOPS, and the…

It’s not the area of the company I personally work on, so I don’t know those details, to be honest. We certainly make sure that everything is working properly.

So I assume there's no guarantee that it will be plug and play after the white glove installation?

Otherwise I would imagine it would be a major selling point and be advertised publicly.

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Regardless of how good the product is, are companies really going to trust a startup with 100% of their hardware, software and support dependencies with no outside ecosystem and no interoperability with any of their existing infra?

I work for a competitor that has actually been shipping a similar product for quite some time now.

Yes, companies are really going to trust a startup for a stack like this. Will they go all in for 100% of their infra? Of course not, but as a test against a similar infra stack at a lower cost with an appealing feature set? Why not?

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Thank you for the response. The problem you described has been solved by the large vendors with Hyper-converged offerings for many years so it sounds like Oxide might be a bit late to the party. I do understand well the rational of running your own servers vs hyperscalers, as well as the repatriation trend but I see Oxide at best as a niche player.

Genuine question, you mention Hyper-converged, can you point to anything that comes even close to the experience you presumably get from the Oxide offering.

Dell's VxRail has been very popular and successful. Not perfect, but pretty good, and I think the market leader.

HPE Simplivity has done well.

Also, Nutanix.

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They literally had CTOs of F100 companies that want to buy this gear as part of VCs pitch. Because as you can imagine your question was the first question VC's asked.

Purchasing a ton of hardware from a startup seems extremely risky for a F100. It's one thing to be left holding the bag when a SaaS startup goes under, but when you just spent millions on gear that is now completely unsupported... eek. I'd be curious to see what companies are interested, Oxide doesn't have any logos on their website which is a little odd given the space.

I doubt any F100 would go all-in on new vendor like Oxide for anything at first. I bet they could spend millions on a a few racks as a trial and have some groups work with it. A couple years down the line maybe they start expanding usage if they like it.

Of course that framing itself is bad - F100 companies aren't usually quite that monolithic. By the time they get that big there's a heterogeneous set of processes, equipment, systems, etc. Some parts of the company may use Oxide right away because they see it as a solution, and others may keep using the IBM mainframes, and other still will keep using racks/blade servers from Dell for eternity.

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On a side note, I really liked their website. The ASCII animations are interesting -- wish there was a video game that had those.

Cogmind ( https://www.gridsagegames.com/cogmind/ ) has those sorts of animations

I've been interested in Cogmind for a while, unfortunately it only works on Windows (which seems an odd choice for a text-based game) so I have no ability to play it.

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Sorry, but this is quite a bunch of b... IMHO. Let's start with their beliefs: 1. Cloud computing is the future of all computing infrastructure. Yeah, no. There's still gonna be things like mobile phones which will do some stuff locally. And probably also desktops. And probably also on-prem servers. Which brings us to their belief no. 2: The computer that runs the cloud should be able to be purchased and not merely r…

The ship has sailed many years ago on your definition of cloud computing. Fight it all you want, you're just going to be downvoted.

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Salary is that high in the US because we have no social net or price caps here. Your on your own for everything. Healthcare, retirement, overpriced homes, out of control rent, etc

retirement is covered by social security healthcare by insurance (offered by the state if you can't afford it yourself) homes, etc is true though and we just need to build more inventory IMO. but there are tons of areas with affordable homes, they just aren't near the big cities like NYC or SF or LA

You can not live on Social Security, no way. If you don't have a job your not getting healthcare and even if your job provides healthcare. Its too expensive to actually use. Also you need to be living below poverty wages before a state will give you healthcare.
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