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Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by LTL_FTC »

ja27 wrote: post #451
chalsprhebaodu wrote: post #355

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Where can I find these mini PCs? I am trying to find hardware for an upcoming project and I’m considering the Pi but would love to see some alternatives.

I just stalk eBay's Buy It Now. Got an i7-7700T w/32GB RAM and a 256GB NVMe for $163 shipped+tax. Previously got an i7-6700T with 1 stick of 16GB RAM so it was cheaper to match that for 32GB total. If you can get friendly with local electronics recyclers or auction buyers you might do way better.

Agreed. Or if one lives near large research universities, they often sell off the equipment they no longer need for a solid deal. Sometimes they do sell computers, servers, monitors and such by the pallet, however, and I’m not sure anyone really needs a cluster that large at home haha

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by sanity31415 »

AmIDev wrote: post #623
l1k wrote: post #430

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The point here is likely to pull the rug out from under scalpers' feet. With the Raspberry Pi 5 out in two weeks, all the held-back inventory of older models will be dumped, prices will plummet, availability will become a non-issue. In that sense it's a wise move.

If scalpers are able to sell a product at higher price, doesn't that mean the company priced the product too low?

Raspberry should raise the price until scalping isn't profitable. Keeping the price low is just handing money to scalpers that should be going towards future product development, until they can meet the demand.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by teamonkey »

Chatting wrote: post #377

I question whether it's wise to launch a new product before the supply chain issues which have plagued Raspberry Pi for years have been fully resolved. Granted, the situation has improved slightly over the past few months. But you will still find Pi 4s out of stock more often than not. The CEO said last year not to expect a Pi 5 in 2023, because they wanted to take the time to recover. Why the u-turn? https://www.the…

Quite possibly they weren’t expecting to be ready to launch in 2023 but the design/supply/capacity issues were resolved quicker than expected.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by KaiserPro »

justin66 wrote: post #586
tedivm wrote: post #554

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They're claiming that they've killed themselves as a business hobbyists, which isn't exactly wrong. During their supply chain issues they made it clear they were prioritizing their commercial customers over the hobbyist market. At this point the hobbyist community has moved on to other things (shout out to odroids). I don't think raspberry pi is going anywhere, but they do have a very different market and customer ba…

> At this point the hobbyist community has moved on to other things (shout out to odroids). Some small fraction of one percent of "the hobbyist community" has done as you've suggested. You're in some kind of odroid bubble.

Yeahnah, I'm not moving to odroid, its a lot of faff and terrible support.

I have a N100, and some rp2040s for GPIO.

I have a project coming up that needs to drive a small screen, the raspberry pi is totally the platform I'm going for. There is no comparison for hardware and software options.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by eldaisfish »

meragrin_ wrote: post #467
michaeltimo wrote: post #438

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Finding older models were also almost impossible in the past two years. It's unlikely that Raspberry Pi 5 will solve the issue. But even so, it's not a wise move because what is the point of bringing a new model when they can't make it available to normal people?

> they can't make it available to normal people I guess you haven't been looking recently? I can go to a local store and pick one up. It looks easy to pick up one online too. https://rpilocator.com/

I have and it is still a pain. Many websites still have limits on how many you can buy. The situation has improved but it is far from what your comment implies.

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Post by tetris11 »

publicmail wrote: post #390
ZuLuuuuuu wrote: post #370

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Is there a way to limit the processor power so that it never exceeds a certain threshold? Because some people might be okay with slower processor if it means less power usage.

I think at least with the Pi 4, you can limit the CPU clock by editing a config file, which has a power limiting effect.

If you set the scheduler to powersave, it downclocks all cores and saves power that way.

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Post by dmitrygr »

extraduder_ire wrote: post #640
arwhatever wrote: post #587

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Then surely there must be competition or a record for “tallest ever,” hopefully requiring each layer to be functional.

I think you can have over a hundred different i2c devices connected to the same bus, so it'd get pretty tall if you can power them all. 10-bit i2c (not very common) can do almost a thousand. Although, you'd need specific rules if you wanted to prevent someone just layering up always-on LED boards.

> you can have over a hundred different i2c devices connected to the same bus

In theory sure, in a world with zero-inductance zero-capacitance busses and infinite-sink-current drivers. In our reality, however, you'll start having issues and start requiring stronger pullups and lower speeds long before you get to a hundred.

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Post by esrauch »

cogman10 wrote: post #565
rasz wrote: post #514

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CEOs lie, thats in their job description. My little pi CEO anecdote: Eben Upton visited local hackerspace many years ago, someone asked about Pi2 (or maybe 3) potential release date and should he wait or buy now, Eben answered they arent even planning next version. A week later Pi2 was announced.

Meh, that's pretty standard practice due to the Osborn effect. [1] At the Pi1 phase, Rpi was a pretty small company. It wouldn't have been great for them if rumor got spread far and wide that Pi2 was on it's way in a week or two. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect

I think the criticism of saying "we're not even thinking of a replacement" is fair, the standard dodge "we don't have anything to announce at this time" which is enough to avoid the Osborne Effect.
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