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post #536

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Not just in the phone books. Ever wonder why the stock ticker has two A’s?

If you’re picking stocks by order of the alphabet you deserve what you get. Which, incidentally, was a tremendous return.

Once upon a time, stocks were listed alphabetically in something called newspapers.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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post #635

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Yes, I agree with that post that the USian pronunciation as given there is better than the British one. But Jobs' rendering of the American pronunciation also sounds wrong to me because the final syllable doesn't generally rhyme with 'wire' as I've heard most Americans pronounce the word.

It may be regional. Jobs grew up in Mountain View and I grew up in Santa Clara, just a few miles down the road. My parents and teachers always said something resembling "jag-wire" in pronunciation.

That makes sense to me. Ahr/ire is a pair that gets swapped or blended in other American accents as well, after all! Many Southern accents basically do the same kind of blending but in the other direction.

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I have similar feelings. Apple did a wonderful job with M1/M2, but on the software side, I have mixed feelings. Xcode is a mess, and Swift UI is not a complete replacement for Cocoa. And on the OS side, I feel like Apple is creating features that I instantly disable because they do the exact opposite of what I want.

XCode is refusing to install. Fails with some error, and asks me to download XCode again. Also now the system needs 70-80 GB of free space to install XCode. One of the funny upgrades so far

  $ du -hs /Applications/Xcode.app/
  4.5G /Applications/Xcode.app/
You definitely should not need that much space.

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XCode is refusing to install. Fails with some error, and asks me to download XCode again. Also now the system needs 70-80 GB of free space to install XCode. One of the funny upgrades so far

There is definitely something buggy going on there. It took 2 attempts for it to install for me! No errors, it just stopped installing somewhere around 90%. Plenty of free disks space and RAM.

Are you using a XIP to install?

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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post #607

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I mean, I’m sympathetic to OSS being hell but you don’t get this vibe from MacPorts. The tone with which they write that stuff actually makes me not use it - not because it’s not good (it generally is), I just get annoyed reading it.

That's probably because MacPorts was built by (and for) actual Apple employees, whereas Homebrew was built by someone unrelated who even had to start his own company because FAANGs wouldn't hire him.

He worked at Apple for a year or so.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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They use Tcl, though, but I guess there is always bound to be an abomination in every project…

This is my only true gripe with MacPorts. Tcl made some sense ~20 years ago but it’s 2023 and the only time I ever touch it anymore is for MacPorts itself.

Amusingly it makes a lot of sense today, by accident: Tcl happens to be one of the only scripting runtimes left on a base macOS install.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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post #222

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Don't move today, because the Sonoma release is not out yet. https://www.macports.org/install.php

I remember this being a huge issue with MacPorts. It would never keep up with the damn releases, so if you were working on a beta OS, you were hosed until they caught up.

I've been using MacPorts on beta releases for the last several years, and it does a pretty decent job. I wouldn't say it's significantly behind the competition.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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post #498

Sonoma UI feels great. I'm also excited that they finally fixed Quartz Debug — the "Enable Vertical Sync" option finally works again when disabled. My mouse feels snappier and there's noticeably less delay when moving windows around.

Quartz Debug. That’s a name I haven’t heard in a while.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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Every time a new MacOS version is announced the 1Password staff must be all sitting around praying Apple doesn't add any more bells and whistles to Keychain.

1Password overdid it a while ago for me and I switched to KeePassXC. It is certainly not as polished as 1Password but the developer team is very responsive and since I started using it, especially on macOS, things have improved a lot already. It is a pleasure to watch things evolve and Passkey support is the next big thing that will be added. Compared to Keychain Access, KeePassXC works cross platform and I need that, since my devices are cross platform. Also helps to avoid vendor lock-in.

Re: macOS Sonoma is available today

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XCode is refusing to install. Fails with some error, and asks me to download XCode again. Also now the system needs 70-80 GB of free space to install XCode. One of the funny upgrades so far

There is definitely something buggy going on there. It took 2 attempts for it to install for me! No errors, it just stopped installing somewhere around 90%. Plenty of free disks space and RAM.

Are you sure it actually stopped installing? When I installed XCode for the first time a few months ago, there was a 20-30 minute period where it was completely silent. Ultimately I was able to tail some syslog from the app store daemon that indicated it was actually doing something (downloading dependencies and validating their signatures, IIRC). But I almost restarted the computer thinking it wasn't working.
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