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Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by melagonster »

scarface_74 wrote: post #620
QuarterReptile wrote: post #342

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The Android market is way way harder to pin down than the iPhone market. Manufacturers have been walking out software support horizons in the Android world, which should have an impact. To the extent that Android users have shifted toward Samsung and Pixels, that would also tend to walk out the software support window of the Android cohort. And finally, last year there were crazy sales that I don't think have been as…

Another sign of the HN bubble. Google only has lifetime sells of 27.6 million pixels over 6 generations https://www.phonearena.com/news/pixel-7-pro-6a-google-best-s... Apple is estimated to sell twice that many in a quarter https://www.statista.com/statistics/299153/apple-smartphone-...

My friend decided to buy zenfone 10 rather than pixel6. pixel is more expensive than iPhone, why people even try it?

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by behringer »

mlinhares wrote: post #649
tmpX7dMeXU wrote: post #544

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I’m astounded by the pervasiveness of this meme, given its origins are really from a Mac vs PC internet flame war era that I would like to think we’ve moved past. I’m astounded by the fact that one can imply with a straight face no less that over half the market are status-driven dorks that have no legitimate reason to use an iPhone over an Android phone, the obviously superior for all people in all circumstances cho…

People just like to think they're special "thinking out of the box" rebels because they use android when the equivalent android phone costs the same as an iphone. There's very little price difference between the models for the main brands (you can off course find cheaper alternatives with their own issues) but if you get an iphone and a samsung side by side odds are they're at the same price range. And as a professio…

There's nothing bang for your buck about apple laptops. I can get a pc laptop for half the price and arguably better quality.

It is true about phones though, especially when you consider how badly all the big brands except apple and Google add unremovable money making spam apps to their phones.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by wredue »

oska wrote: post #657
tmpX7dMeXU wrote: post #544

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I’m astounded by the pervasiveness of this meme, given its origins are really from a Mac vs PC internet flame war era that I would like to think we’ve moved past. I’m astounded by the fact that one can imply with a straight face no less that over half the market are status-driven dorks that have no legitimate reason to use an iPhone over an Android phone, the obviously superior for all people in all circumstances cho…

This comment came over as quite aggressive to me, and, browsing your new account history, I found a similar tone in other comments. As you are new here, I would urge you to read the HN guidelines : https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Maybe the dude they responded to should avoid aggressive, sweeping generalizations about people who like a different phone than them?

I buy iPhone for a lot of reasons, 0 of which are “status”. I had no idea there was even any status. The flagship devices are all within a couple hundred bucks of each other.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by wredue »

behringer wrote: post #662
mlinhares wrote: post #649

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People just like to think they're special "thinking out of the box" rebels because they use android when the equivalent android phone costs the same as an iphone. There's very little price difference between the models for the main brands (you can off course find cheaper alternatives with their own issues) but if you get an iphone and a samsung side by side odds are they're at the same price range. And as a professio…

There's nothing bang for your buck about apple laptops. I can get a pc laptop for half the price and arguably better quality. It is true about phones though, especially when you consider how badly all the big brands except apple and Google add unremovable money making spam apps to their phones.

Surface laptops are priced pretty well on par with apple for a worse screen, quality, and battery life.

Literally no other laptop provides a competitive battery life, screen or build even compared to the surface. I literally just bought a new laptop 3 months ago, and almost zero windows laptops were reasonably competitive with the MacBook for a dev.

Could just be because I have a powerful gaming PC, but I definitely found that windows laptops did not meet up to a decent standard.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by behringer »

adamredwoods wrote: post #531
nordsieck wrote: post #361

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> I'm constantly amazed by how people spend so much of their income on Apple products I don't know about other people, but I went iPhone specifically for the value/$. Got a used iPhone SE 2020 for $150 in late 2021, and expect to use it for 5+ years. I seriously doubt that there are any Androids out there that could get even close to that. It really helps that Apple's CPU/SoC is substantially superior to what everyon…

I'm still on Pixel 2. The battery is a bit short these days, but I have no performance issues.

I bet the battery can be replaced cheaper than an iPhone too. Well worth it if you don't expect to upgrade in the next year.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by solardev »

melagonster wrote: post #661
scarface_74 wrote: post #620

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Another sign of the HN bubble. Google only has lifetime sells of 27.6 million pixels over 6 generations https://www.phonearena.com/news/pixel-7-pro-6a-google-best-s... Apple is estimated to sell twice that many in a quarter https://www.statista.com/statistics/299153/apple-smartphone-...

My friend decided to buy zenfone 10 rather than pixel6. pixel is more expensive than iPhone, why people even try it?

To avoid having to use crappy UIs and apps from random OEMs. And to get updates directly from Google.

I never wanted "Google compatible" phone like an IBM compatible PC. Just like the Wintel ecosystem, Android fragmented into chaos. Pixels are the only way to get a Google phone now without all the third party bloat and crapware.

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Post by willio58 »

yCombLinks wrote: post #639
willio58 wrote: post #438

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> I resent that my money went to a company like Apple When comparing Apple to a companies like LG, Motorola, and Xiaomi, what do you find to be worse about Apple? Genuine question.

Steve Jobs was one of America's greatest assholes

I’ve read a biography on him. He was definitely an asshole. But tbh he’s nothing comparable to someone like an Elon. Jobs fired people unceremoniously, but he didn’t buy a huge tech company and fire 2/3rds of staff and make them work weekends and holidays to get things working again. Jobs was shitty to his daughter, but if you learn about how he was disowned as a child it all starts to make sense. Not that what he did was excusable, but it’s not quite “americas greatest asshole”

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by randycupertino »

oska wrote: post #657
tmpX7dMeXU wrote: post #544

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m astounded by the pervasiveness of this meme, given its origins are really from a Mac vs PC internet flame war era that I would like to think we’ve moved past. I’m astounded by the fact that one can imply with a straight face no less that over half the market are status-driven dorks that have no legitimate reason to use an iPhone over an Android phone, the obviously superior for all people in all circumstances cho…

This comment came over as quite aggressive to me, and, browsing your new account history, I found a similar tone in other comments. As you are new here, I would urge you to read the HN guidelines : https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Geeze I rarely bother to go read people's post histories here unless they strike me as uniquely insightful but yours inspired me to go read his comments and dude looks like a troll account who just came on here to cause flamewars and troll. All of his comments are argumentative.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by fingerlocks »

meepmorp wrote: post #421
fingerlocks wrote: post #286

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You can install an emulator with an extra $8.33 a month for a developer account.

You've been able to build and install iOS apps on your own device without a paid developer account for years now.

Right but way fewer restrictions
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