My account was 13 years old on Reddit. I just deleted it.
Apollo will close down on June 30th
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#662Does anyone have the least bit of business experience? This is outrageous. I have not followed this at all but how can everyone here be so biased against Steve? If you listen to the call this Christian guy literally said: "if your opportunity cost is really $20 million, you cut me a cheque for $10 million dollars and we can both skip off into the sunset" A joke, seriously? Why on earth would you say this in what was…
Did you listen to the same call? He immediately clarified the statement. And uh, I would be arrogant too if I was doing the job of an entire team of people who had the audacity to pretend otherwise. Pay respect to Steve? Jeez man, don't simp too hard there, it might seem like you are biased or something. I see your account is an hour old . . . Steve, is that you?
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#663Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is really astounding to see the CEO of Reddit being caught in a blatant lie denigrating a third party developer whose work has done a lot for the platform and who has the ear of a reasonably sized and loud portion of the community. I really hadn’t expected that. Corporate doublespeak is one thing, and management decisions aren’t necessarily always in the interest of their users - but such an egregious act is reall…
> It is really astounding to see the CEO of Reddit being caught in a blatant lie denigrating a third party developer whose work has done a lot for the platform and who has the ear of a reasonably sized and loud portion of the community. I listened to the audio. It was very clear from the get-go the minute he said pay me $10m they were taking it very seriously, they said repeatedly "I just want to be very clear about…
I listened to the audio as well. Can you please explain how you think Spez interpreted the threat?
He thinks that Apollo is threatening to blast them on social media? Slander him? Break his legs? Murder him?
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#664I've been getting MORE porn spam on Reddit than I ever have before...
I've blocked 2 dozen accounts in as many days.
It feels like Reddit is about to implode.
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#665Remember when FB made changes and switched to timeline views. Everyone was saying this is the death of Facebook. Then in the next earnings call, they showed average engagement and time spent more than doubled. Everyone boycotting reddit is all talk and no hat. They will still be on reddit.
You mean the same Facebook that no one under 30 uses?
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#666Here's a wild thought. What I would love to happen is that one of these apps (Sync or Apollo) release a version of their app where a user can enter their own API key. This would put the cost of the API usage on to the individual user instead of the app owner and the app owner can continue to focus on the app UI/features without worry. It wouldn't change how they made money off these apps either. Let's see what that w…
Here’s an anecdote. I was subscribed to ChatGPT Plus for a while, to get access to GPT4. I stopped subscribing after after I got GPT4 API access because I developed a little personal app which used the OpenAI API to just read and write directly from plain text files and that suits my workflow better than the ChatGPT website. But it sucks because I’m constantly thinking about how much I’m using, and how many tokens I’…
If I was designing such an app I would prominently display your ongoing monthly costs and add a budget/limit feature.
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#667I just don’t see Reddit’s response here other than “yes, turns out we are the bad guys who have been continually lying and manipulating the situation for our benefit”. I wonder if they’ll see employees quit over this. How do you trust your employer after this? I bet some subreddits will go permanently private or delete themselves over this. Just absolutely stunning turn of events, massive kudos to Christian for recor…
I am astounded that Steve Huffman would do this. There was the incident ~7 years ago where he silently edited a post that criticized him, but I thought he would have learned from that, and this is so much worse.
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#668Totally agree that Reddit are being glorious ass-munching hentais here. I fucking hate all that Reddit has become as a company and as a product. But also, dude just raise your prices. I read the whole announcement and truly don't understand why Apollo can't be $20/year. I don't know anybody who attributes a meaningful difference to $10/year and $20/year. I'm not a user but if I was faced with that type of price chang…
> I don't know anybody who attributes a meaningful difference to $10/year and $20/year. You forgot to factor in other things. Base API cost: $2.52/mo (0.00024/call @ 345req/day) App Store Taxes / Fees: $1.08/mo (I doubt he qualifies for the reduced fees at this point) Just adding the appstore tax makes this $43.20 a year. That doesn't factor in any servers he has to pay for (push notifications). The app dev fee $99 p…
He said he could make the pricing work at half what reddit is asking, for $1.26/mo base API cost. I assume he has the best insight into his own business. I was just conservatively spitballing that doubling his revenue would mean he could manage the price Reddit is asking (since he said he could make due with half). Just looking at it from the other angle.
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#669I just don’t see Reddit’s response here other than “yes, turns out we are the bad guys who have been continually lying and manipulating the situation for our benefit”. I wonder if they’ll see employees quit over this. How do you trust your employer after this? I bet some subreddits will go permanently private or delete themselves over this. Just absolutely stunning turn of events, massive kudos to Christian for recor…
I run a small sub, about 50 people. One day I looked at it, not logged in. Turned out there was a post, "pinned by moderators", at the top of the post list, exhorting people to join the sub lounge - that real-time chat thing Reddit was pushing. I never made that post, nor did I approve it, nor did I ever see it in the mod list of posts. I logged in, and went to the mod list of posts - and lo and behold, somehow pinne…
>pushed it into my sub,
*their sub.
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#670I'm not a user of Apollo, and honestly have been perfectly fine using old.reddit.com on both mobile and desktop. That said, while I realize it's just his side of the story, the Apollo developer comes across as imminently reasonable and rational (and he apparently has the receipts to back it up), while Reddit comes across as embodying typical corporate greed. On a related note, I think everyone should understand that,…
"Imminently" reasonable and rational? What does that mean?
Eminently.