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Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco
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Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco
#662I find it shocking that anyone still chooses to live in this broken city. I left >4 years ago and am never coming back. It's unfixable. Let's move the tech industry somewhere that isn't rotten to the core.
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Meritocracy is critical. Someone has to do the actual work.
Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco
#663I find it shocking that anyone still chooses to live in this broken city. I left >4 years ago and am never coming back. It's unfixable. Let's move the tech industry somewhere that isn't rotten to the core.
Honest question, what if the tech industry is a root cause?
Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco
#664https://www.linkedin.com/in/crazybob/ He was Chief Product Officer at MobileCoin. Hopefully we learn who stabbed him, and why. 43 is just way too young. Thoughts go out to his wife. He was instrumental in creating Android. Whatever you may think of it today, we wouldn't have it if it weren't for him.
Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco
#665I find it shocking that anyone still chooses to live in this broken city. I left >4 years ago and am never coming back. It's unfixable. Let's move the tech industry somewhere that isn't rotten to the core.
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You have to understand that the entire SF housing situation is rigged, for the benefit not of the wealthy but of those who got there first. I know a guy who rents two apartments in Nob Hill, one for himself and one for his unemployed son. The guys job? A part-time substitute teacher at a public school. He’ll be retired soon and live there for another 20 years as he can’t possibly afford to move anywhere else. That’s rent control for you.
Meanwhile me and my wife both have tech salaries and don’t live in SF as we can’t afford it. No wonder the city has more dogs than children.
Anyway the root issue in this specific tragic incident is not housing - but the lack of treatment for the mentally ill, the ready availability of fentanyl and the willingness of the city government to roll out the red carpet of enablement with millions of dollars funnelled into city programs (that pay for their “jobs”) which amount to nothing more than an open-air mass suicide. It’s as tragic as it is despicable.
Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco
#666This thread is full of "I left SF 1,000 years ago, it's awful! I know, because I haven't lived there in 1,000 years!" and "I'll never move to SF, this is why! I know it's awful, because of the news!" Not saying SF doesn't have problems. I don't live there, so I don't know! I do know that I live next to some cities that have similar or worse reputations, and I also know those reputations are overplayed.
A lot of people have fun anecdotes about visiting San Francisco. For example, I was in SF for 3 days and was chased by a man with a knife in a park near a major tourist attraction. I lived in NYC for 12 years and nothing of that sort happened my entire time there.
Maybe SF is unique in the dangers are equally dispersed among residents, non residents, and across neighborhoods of varied socio-economic status. Chicago is reputationally dangerous, but the violence is really limited to non-tourist neighborhoods that mostly poor people live in. So probably not the type of people who will be posting stories on HN, or get a CNN article written about them when they die.
Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco
#667I find it shocking that anyone still chooses to live in this broken city. I left >4 years ago and am never coming back. It's unfixable. Let's move the tech industry somewhere that isn't rotten to the core.
Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco
#668I find it shocking that anyone still chooses to live in this broken city. I left >4 years ago and am never coming back. It's unfixable. Let's move the tech industry somewhere that isn't rotten to the core.
The tech industry is mainly South Bay (you know, Silicon Valley.) Any tech being in SF is a last-decade phenomenon, possibly a zero-interest-rate one. Since SF has some of the worst governance in the country, maybe it won't last that long. There's always East Bay.
Pick a city who wants to get the money and has fewer NIMBYs and has space to build. Move one office there and incentivize who wants to be there
This is how it was in the "good old days" with factories, no? But instead of IceRock, WI it will be a place close to the valley
But sometimes companies are lazy for places that don't have avocado toast I guess.
Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco
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Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco
#670My family has lived in SF since the 1800s. I recently moved because it has gotten so bad. I hate what the government has done to my city.
In a democracy, you are the government. What we see today in SF is the consequence of decades of hostility to construction and growth from the residents of SF.
Maybe if you're a moneyed donor.