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Well said, good analogy. There’s the immediate issues of the policy. But there’s the bigger issue of the thought process that led to the policy. One of Elons central criticism of old Twitter management was unfair content moderation policy. And almost immediately he enacts a far worse content policy than anything old management did, in a brazen display of hypocrisy. Even if he reverses course on this one issue, he’s d…

Elon Musk's social media policy is now so sensitive that repeatedly linking to other platforms will get you banned. This is coming from the guy who thinks it's fair play to repeatedly call a rescue worker a pedophile -- of all things that shouldn't be considered fair play on or off social media.

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I'm not leaving Twitter. It seems more likely than not that Elon will reverse the ban on links to other social media sites. I just don't want to hang out there in the meantime. Plus given the way things are going, it seemed like a good time to learn about alternatives. I still think Elon is a smart guy. His work on cars and rockets speaks for itself. Nor do I think he's the villain a lot of people try to make him out…

I'm deleting my account in the hope it will keep that data safe. I have 0 confidence in his ability to run a massive application safely and securely.

What a shit show, as if he needed to add the managerial drama on top of getting rid of 75% of his staff.

I would say delete your account while you still can. Who knows what he will do your data.

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There’s an old adage about never meeting your heroes that applies well to PG. Some of his daily takes were so embarrassing and insipid that it was hard to maintain respect. It’s funny because his long form posts which are often insightful were likely reviewed/edited by a third person. A concept he has actually said only exists in the modern commercial publishing era.

I've met PG at a book signing and he was quite pleasant. I asked about when Arc would be released (this was a while back) and he laughed and joked about it. Really nice guy. Do you really think twitter equates to meeting someone?

Do you think that meeting someone at his book signing equates to meeting him?

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I'm not leaving Twitter. It seems more likely than not that Elon will reverse the ban on links to other social media sites. I just don't want to hang out there in the meantime. Plus given the way things are going, it seemed like a good time to learn about alternatives. I still think Elon is a smart guy. His work on cars and rockets speaks for itself. Nor do I think he's the villain a lot of people try to make him out…

I've deactivated the account that I created last month.

I agree that he may still salvage the situation, and I hope to reactivate or create a new account if/when that happens. For now, though, the best thing I can do is reinforce the signal that this was a major misstep, for a reason he should be well aware of: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1533616384747442176

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Elon Musk's social media policy is now so sensitive that repeatedly linking to other platforms will get you banned. This is coming from the guy who thinks it's fair play to repeatedly call a rescue worker a pedophile -- of all things that shouldn't be considered fair play on or off social media.

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If he knew he would definitely make it public so we can stop with that line of nonsense.

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Organizing the efforts of large teams of smart people is one of the most high value activities you can do in our society. Edit: not saying that's happening at Twitter, but it has demonstrably occurred at Tesla and SpaceX.

This wasn't an achievement for SpaceX. Lots of very talented people wanted to work on space based on passion alone. It just came down to providing funding at a time space privatization was an uncertain venture. Compare to Neuralink mostly being a failure.

There is still something special about spacex. There are many other space companies that get the same passionate people but they get very little done by comparison.

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> Plus I don't think he realizes that the techniques that work for cars and rockets don't work in social media. This argument made sense a month ago. Unfortunately he really hasn't shown any improvement since then that would lead me to agree with you on that point. It's now a situation where he has to either find enough new people who agree with whatever his approach is or /win people back/ - both of those are quite…

Twitter has less bots yets more activity than ever. In what dimension do these Hacker news posters live?

I have never had as many spam bots in my DMs and replies as I have right now.

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> A reputation is not like a piece of software that you fix and then re-run as though it never broke in the first place In a way it is, but it differs from software in that fixing it involves more than reverting the action by which you broke it.

Any good examples? 'Reputation is like a crystal vase, you can drop it, and glue it back together again but it will never again be the same vase that it was before you dropped it'.

"Reputation is like a refrigerator. About 6 feet tall. 300 pounds. They make ice. And when if your refrigerator isn't running, you will get spoilage."

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I'm not leaving Twitter. It seems more likely than not that Elon will reverse the ban on links to other social media sites. I just don't want to hang out there in the meantime. Plus given the way things are going, it seemed like a good time to learn about alternatives. I still think Elon is a smart guy. His work on cars and rockets speaks for itself. Nor do I think he's the villain a lot of people try to make him out…

Unfortunately for those who idolised Elon, their world view is beginning to crumble. His actions are not justifiable. The way he treats people, the way he rules his companies, the way he governs his new "free speech" platform. The man is a tyrant. He's idolised for the things he's achieved but if he had not achieved them would he be given the same benefit of the doubt? Hypocrisy. The way people treat this man versus…

Techies are very susceptible to the cult of personality. How many times do we have to watch that play out?

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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My recent impression of pg is that he is raising his family and is wealthy beyond measure. He doesn't need to influence anyone, and aside from his small quips on startups, seems to be checked out. He's not irrelevant but not being on twitter has zero impact on his life, because he doesnt need a mouth piece anymore

Most people are on there for a sense of validation. And I imagine 1 million followers is pretty validating.
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