So basically apple just went back to the things they tried to fix that weren't broken and then messed up the aesthetics by making it a design from 2010 and added a notch. Why do they do this. Does the design team not understand how to design macbook pros ?
Wait, what notch? Do the processors have notches now?
MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch
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#662Priced out the one I would buy and it is $4300. Seems the value isn't quite there. Hard to say though without playing with it for a while. So clearly I need to go back to work for some tech company that will buy one for me :-). It is more interesting to me to reflect on the comments from about 5 years ago that "ARM will never be in laptops, its a 'phone' processor." That statement was both true and ignored the realit…
I expect to be surrounded by pitchforks and torches for saying this, but I genuinely believe that Linux is the true winner of today's presentation. The last few months have been watershed times for both Apple and Microsoft. Starting with Apple, their developer relations are starting to crumble in a major way. Not only have developers stood up against their highway robbery, but other companies like Microsoft have one-…
I don't know if you've been following marcan & co on their work on bringing linux to M1 macs, but it's moving along nicely. Pretty soon there will be an interesting conundrum for believers in open systems: buy high performance mac hardware but run an open OS on it, or take the high road and buy a "worse" laptop from a more open vendor.
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#663These look positively insane . 120Hz HDR displays. Can be specced with up to 64 GB of RAM and a GPU that (apparently) matches a 3070. All the ports you could ever want and magsafe. I can't wait to get my hands on one. The notch doesn't bother me because it's literally more room on the screen. Laptops with the camera below the screen tend to have an uncomfortable angle that look sup your nose, and the design suggests…
Where did you see the "matches the 3070" thing? When I was (admittedly) skimming the two articles, the performance metrics were all about "performance per watt" which ... doesn't mean anything for actual performance in a "how long will this scene take to render?" sort of meaning.
Yeah, they also claim to have "studio quality microphones". I think specs are great, but comparisons are not always honest.
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#664I really hate the feet. Just the bottom half of the form factor looks like they're going back to 2006 design.
Very ugly but luckily you don't look at that part much on a laptop. Especially on macs, the rubber feet just fall off and the case ends up scratched and marred up overtime.
Yeah I have a 2012(?) and one of the only things is that the feet have all worn flat and smooth, and feel like they are going to fall off. And if I want to overthink it, it's probably one of the cheapest feeling things about it.
What do you mean the rubber feet don't stay on? They make millions of these, milled out of aluminum, they can't keep the feet on?
Personally, I would trade a lot of design elegance for some hardy laptop feet.
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#665I guess I'm pretty much alone here, but I don't really like these new MacBooks. The things I'm happy about: - Function keys are back! - They kept touchID - Chips are probably pretty good - Headphone jack, yay! But what I really dislike: - The case-design looks kind of outdated. I'm getting MacBook Pro 2006 vibes here. - The base price starts at 2.000$ (2250€) ! - The notch... On the iPhone the notch was justified wit…
You loose one usb-c port to get all the others. I've never needed 4 usb-c ports at a time, but definitely have needed all the others. And one usb-c port is replaced by power, which many times I have had to use one for anyway. So whether you bought into full usb-c future or not I don't see the extra ports hurting you. Maybe a 'whatever', but don't see it as a reason to dislike it.
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#666The only thing I'm disappointed on is that I was really hoping for Ethernet-over-MagSafe like the iMac power adapter.
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#667I'm curios as to why these much more energy efficient chips require a significant upgrade of the power brick, now at 140W that's more than 40W higher than the Intel chips (and only for the 16" model).
Not a big deal, but can't see what would require the massive upgrade (and I'm a bit frustrated that all my cables are only rated for 100W)
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#668Nice. Ports are back. Very nice. Prices are up. Not nice. The deal breaker is the notch. Sorry Apple I am a designer. I cannot watch this 24/7. Even if the top bar is black the notch will be visible enough to distract my visual line. The more I look at this, the more I like the Framework laptop. P.S. Happy down-voting, have a nice day and stay safe.
Isn’t the notch strictly an improvement? The alternative is to lose that top area to a bezel. This feels like extra screen for free.
It's extra screen, but with limited utility due to that notch being there. Having that extra screen without the notch would've been even better.
Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch
#669These look positively insane . 120Hz HDR displays. Can be specced with up to 64 GB of RAM and a GPU that (apparently) matches a 3070. All the ports you could ever want and magsafe. I can't wait to get my hands on one. The notch doesn't bother me because it's literally more room on the screen. Laptops with the camera below the screen tend to have an uncomfortable angle that look sup your nose, and the design suggests…
Note that it starts at $2500, and that's probably with the lowest cpu and 16gb of ram. Probably gonna be $5K+ when specced to what you mention above.
The M1 max with 64GB ram is $3,800, and the lowest M1 pro with 16GB ram is $2,000.
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#670I don't plan to go back to MagSafe. I have multiport USB-C chargers all round my house and don't really want to buy lots of cables or proprietary chargers to add to the mix. I'm sticking with USB-C even if it's slower. SD cards I don't use. And HDMI I rarely use so dongles are fine, but it's nice to have I guess!
If I chose to buy the 14" model which comes with a 96W USB-C power adapter, does anyone who has experience of Apple products know if I could still use my existing 65W usb charger to power or charge the MacBook? My Dell XPS 15 does allow me to charge it with a 65W USB-C charger which is nice when I don't want to lug around the beefy 130W power adapter but I do have to be careful not to stress the CPU too much or it wi…
The new Macbook Pros support charging through the USB-C ports or the MagSafe port.
You should be fine using the USB-C ports with your adapter.
It's as of yet unclear how well the MagSafe cable would work with your adapter.