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Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by dspillett »

ryan29 wrote: post #389
Aerroon wrote: post #191

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> * A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup I refuse. There better be easily accessible versions without this requirement.

I need a local account. I set up my PC with multiple profiles. I start with a local admin account and then I add Microsoft accounts for my day-to-day work. I have one profile logged in to my personal Microsoft account. Another is logged in to an Office 365 account that belongs to someone I do work for. Etc.. Why is MS encouraging people to have one giant admin account with a work or school account connected? That's s…

> Why is MS encouraging people to have one giant admin account with a work or school account connected?

Because it makes us easier to track and make money out of, would be my first thought. Seems to be why everyone else want my everything to be connected to my everything else.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by samuell »

Re. the UI, I can't believe my eyes! When Windows (with 10) finally arrived at a sharper, better UI than anything else (albeit destroyed by ads and constant privacy violations) they suddenly throw that out for a crappy version of the KDE 5 Plasma desktop, a remnant from last decade ...

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by jtvjan »

cdrini wrote: post #596
satysin wrote: post #94

So to summerize what they have announced (so far) - * A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? * A new start menu design * Windows have rounded corners * Some built in apps such as the Xbox app and Microsoft Store have been redesigned (Xbox Game Pass and xCloud built into the Xbox app) * New touch keyboard (SwiftKey?) with improved…

Do you have a citation for this? > * A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup I saw a video of Linus tech tips taking the leaked demo for a spin, and it looked like there was an option to use it with a local only account: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odZSCdNTFPw&t=305s

That's Windows 11 Pro, not Home.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by zeusk »

benbristow wrote: post #657
zeusk wrote: post #643

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Well the initial version of Store (it didn't really improve in iterations of 10) was horrible UX and dodgy state changes. It's essentially just a webpage and a very bad one at that. The new store that I've been using in internal builds is far more responsive. I believe they will require a Microsoft ID to access it, but other than that I have no complaints about the new version.

I thought the current store was a native UWP app? Am I wrong?

Yes, the current store is a very janky UWP app written in HTML and javascript. I believe their original motive was to share the code base between the online store and the desktop client.

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Post by sixothree »

kleiba wrote: post #226
Aerroon wrote: post #191

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> * A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup I refuse. There better be easily accessible versions without this requirement.

I'm not a Windows person but recently had to go through the setup process on my parents' newly purchased desktop machine. As far as I could tell, creating a user account just locally was not possible, you had to have an online account, hooked up with a valid email address. Given that most free email providers require you to provide your phone number (I don't own a phone), I had to do some digging--- all just to creat…

Creating a local use account in Windows 11 is _much_ easier than in Windows 10 (at least based on the leaked version I have seen).

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Post by sixothree »

bick_nyers wrote: post #296
Aerroon wrote: post #191

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> * A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup I refuse. There better be easily accessible versions without this requirement.

Smells like you are forced to login with a Microsoft account and can't do a local account

As I mentioned elsewhere. You can do it _and_ it is easier than in Windows 10.

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Post by sixothree »

IshKebab wrote: post #488
dean177 wrote: post #227

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- Windows have rounded corners - Teams integrated into Windows - A new widgets fly out for weather, news, etc. (appears this will require you login with a Microsoft Account) - A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup No thank you

You forgot: moved the most clicked button away from the easiest place to click it.

You have obviously never used an ultrawide monitor. I think the positioning is an _excellent_ idea.

Besides, most people can easily discover that it's a simple checkbox in settings.

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Post by sixothree »

fighterpilot wrote: post #566
aarchi wrote: post #515

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The Windows button is useless if you use the Windows key

It is, but it was also easy to click previously. By being in the bottom left you could just flick your mouse to the corner and not have to aim for a little icon. Now you can't do that. The position will also change as more icons are added which will make for bad UX as well.

Then move it to the bottom left.

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Post by sixothree »

silicon2401 wrote: post #180
satysin wrote: post #94

So to summerize what they have announced (so far) - * A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? * A new start menu design * Windows have rounded corners * Some built in apps such as the Xbox app and Microsoft Store have been redesigned (Xbox Game Pass and xCloud built into the Xbox app) * New touch keyboard (SwiftKey?) with improved…

> A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup Looks like I'll be skipping windows 11 and any future windows iterations if this is unavoidable

Just get Pro and stop complaining.

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Post by sixothree »

josephg wrote: post #564
tryptophan wrote: post #382

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I tried Linux mint recently and was impressed. My parents seem to use it without issue. As long as you don’t game, need to use office or some other windoze software it seems like a viable choice.

Viable, but not great. My Linux mint install gets a duplicate mouse cursor appearing sometimes, just floating on top of everything on my desktop. If I don’t reboot the machine often weird things break. Like after a few days my media keys stop working on my keyboard. My trackpad sometimes stops working and needs to be power cycled. (One time after awaking from sleep my mouse was moving upside down.) The activity monit…

There's always that one deal-breaker on linux. Some hardware that you need just doesn't work or the software does some very minor thing that makes it unusable.
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