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Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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I am in favor of these matters being handled and adjudicated via the courts, not by private entities with no due process, arbitrary process and limited oversight. For all we know there was a limited group of users of that service that caused this action, however we don’t know and likely will never know the facts in this matter.

> I am in favor of these matters being handled and adjudicated via the courts, not by private entities with no due process, arbitrary process and limited oversight.

So if Amazon wants to discontinue a business relationship they would need to sue their customer? What would they sue them for? I don't think it's a crime to break terms of service.

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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I'm having a real hard time understanding how all the comments in the thread are in favor of this. I mean, even if you disagree with the idea of Parler, how can one willingly support this kind of censorship? "First they came for the XYZ and I didn't care because I wasn't XYZ, then they came for the ..., and then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me"

I'm going to take a guess that you've not lived under an actual regime of censorship. This is not it, and quite honestly basically all speech which threatens others is restricted. There are always limits, and just because other crossed them does not necessarily mean that restrictions are going to tighten further.

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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post #628

I'm having a real hard time understanding how all the comments in the thread are in favor of this. I mean, even if you disagree with the idea of Parler, how can one willingly support this kind of censorship? "First they came for the XYZ and I didn't care because I wasn't XYZ, then they came for the ..., and then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me"

AWS is not a service provided by the state.

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

#667

Legal? Probably. An extremely dangerous precedent? Yes.

> If we reasonably believe any of Your Content violates the law, infringes or misappropriates the rights of any third party, or otherwise violates a material term of the Agreement (including the documentation, the Service Terms, or the Acceptable Use Policy) (“Prohibited Content”), we will notify you of the Prohibited Content and may request that such content be removed from the Services or access to it be disabled. If you do not remove or disable access to the Prohibited Content within 2 business days of our notice, we may remove or disable access to the Prohibited Content or suspend the Services to the extent we are not able to remove or disable access to the Prohibited Content.

https://aws.amazon.com/service-terms/

Folks are openly discussing treason. Parler ain't moderating it. Boot gotten.

Enforcing your "don't do crimes on our hardware" TOS is not remotely "precedent" setting. Besides, that only happens in court.

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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A protests of 1000s(tens?) of people had some unknown (be honest) number of violent actors that resulted in the death of two people. We have no means of verifying that those who committed violence did so at the behest of bad actors on any given App. We can speculate or let the media speculate for us. Speculation nonetheless.

One would think that a community so dependent on data would require it.

Would you have felt more safe at that protest or walking through a rough area of Chicago on any given day last week? [0]

Is this really worth the slippery slope we are now walking toward? I don't know. At least not yet.

[0] https://home.chicagopolice.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/1_...

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

#669
Terrible precedent.

Even the argument that "private companies don't have to respect free speech", though one that seems disingenuous as most people making it weren't saying so with cases like Masterpiece Cake Shop v CCRC, holds little water when there is no public square alternative.

Because of the possibility of people saying things FAANG don't approve of, they are entirely deplatforming a platform.

How can they argue that they're anything but publishers, if they boot websites for simply having the potential to allow speech they disapprove of?

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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These tech companies have always removed calls to violence. I lost count of how many FB groups have been shut down. I just don't see this being anti-right as much as it's anti violence.

Maybe if BLM folks made their own app and started doxing Twitter employees that wouldn't get shut down, but I guess we'll never know.

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