Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler
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#663https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25706993&p=2
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Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler
#664I am in favor of these matters being handled and adjudicated via the courts, not by private entities with no due process, arbitrary process and limited oversight. For all we know there was a limited group of users of that service that caused this action, however we don’t know and likely will never know the facts in this matter.
So if Amazon wants to discontinue a business relationship they would need to sue their customer? What would they sue them for? I don't think it's a crime to break terms of service.
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#665I'm having a real hard time understanding how all the comments in the thread are in favor of this. I mean, even if you disagree with the idea of Parler, how can one willingly support this kind of censorship? "First they came for the XYZ and I didn't care because I wasn't XYZ, then they came for the ..., and then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me"
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#666I'm having a real hard time understanding how all the comments in the thread are in favor of this. I mean, even if you disagree with the idea of Parler, how can one willingly support this kind of censorship? "First they came for the XYZ and I didn't care because I wasn't XYZ, then they came for the ..., and then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me"
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#667Legal? Probably. An extremely dangerous precedent? Yes.
https://aws.amazon.com/service-terms/
Folks are openly discussing treason. Parler ain't moderating it. Boot gotten.
Enforcing your "don't do crimes on our hardware" TOS is not remotely "precedent" setting. Besides, that only happens in court.
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#668One would think that a community so dependent on data would require it.
Would you have felt more safe at that protest or walking through a rough area of Chicago on any given day last week? [0]
Is this really worth the slippery slope we are now walking toward? I don't know. At least not yet.
[0] https://home.chicagopolice.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/1_...
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#669Even the argument that "private companies don't have to respect free speech", though one that seems disingenuous as most people making it weren't saying so with cases like Masterpiece Cake Shop v CCRC, holds little water when there is no public square alternative.
Because of the possibility of people saying things FAANG don't approve of, they are entirely deplatforming a platform.
How can they argue that they're anything but publishers, if they boot websites for simply having the potential to allow speech they disapprove of?
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Maybe if BLM folks made their own app and started doxing Twitter employees that wouldn't get shut down, but I guess we'll never know.