Degoogle: Cutting Google out of your life • Hacker News Board

Re: Degoogle: Cutting Google out of your life

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Post by popeathlete » Tue, Aug 25, 2020, 1:23 PM UTC

tossthere wrote: post #610

freediver wrote: post #574

I genuinly wonder - what does go through the heads of those 100,000 very smart people that work at Google, many of them reading this forum, when they read a thread like this? Do they think 'oh it is HN again', do they discard this as irrelevant noise, do they know something that all the people posting here don't, do they still strongly believe in their mission, or do they get a gut-wrenching feeling that one day it m…

I’ll be honest, mostly I just think that this is a very idealistic and naive reaction. The world is extremely complicated and full of unfortunate realities that humanity just doesn’t have any solutions for. There are people who can recognize that, and who try to do the best they can. Then there are people who can’t recognize that, adopt an overly simplistic model of the problem and its environment, become convinced t…

Don't know what you meant when you divided "people" into those two categories, but it's either truism or irrelevant. Google is just a name, the point is it has a lot of power and even if a lot of people are "good" that doesn't mean they won't change, fuck up or be replaced at some point with a team that is less ethical. It's like it is with nukes. No one should have a weapon capable of such destruction.

Re: Degoogle: Cutting Google out of your life

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Post by 1vuio0pswjnm7 » Tue, Aug 25, 2020, 10:04 PM UTC

DavideNL wrote: post #410

1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #346

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is Google's policy on accounts set up to forward all mail re: scanning contents of forwarded messages?

I don't think it really matters; Google has a track record of abusing privacy (regardless of what the policy is.)

s/policy/practice/

Published "privacy policies" seem to be a way of preserving opacity. It is nigh impossible, absent litigation discovery, to decipher what the company is actually doing.

Re: Degoogle: Cutting Google out of your life

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Post by toastercat » Thu, Aug 27, 2020, 12:27 PM UTC

newsbinator wrote: post #646

toastercat wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also moved all my e-mail off Gmail and onto Migadu using my own domains. This ensures that even if Migadu goes under, I could swifty move to another service and keep my same e-mail addresses (for the record, Migadu is awesome). Like you mentioned in another comment, it did take me some time to move all my accounts over (about 2 days worth), but I'm so happy I did.

Migadu just announced today they're getting rid of the free plan. The next plan up that supports multiple domains is $19/yr and unlimited domains would be $29/mo. I had been keeping on there my side-project domains, which didn't really need a full gSuite backing them, since only a handful of emails would go in or out per month. If Migadu's were a more reasonable price, I would have shrugged and upgraded. But going fr…

Agreed. Ironic that this happened so soon after my recommendation.

Fortunately for me, the new Micro plan works fine, but at this point, I think services like Mailbox.org might provide greater value compared to the upper tiers.

Re: Degoogle: Cutting Google out of your life

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Post by toastercat » Thu, Aug 27, 2020, 4:00 PM UTC

newsbinator wrote: post #646

toastercat wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also moved all my e-mail off Gmail and onto Migadu using my own domains. This ensures that even if Migadu goes under, I could swifty move to another service and keep my same e-mail addresses (for the record, Migadu is awesome). Like you mentioned in another comment, it did take me some time to move all my accounts over (about 2 days worth), but I'm so happy I did.

Migadu just announced today they're getting rid of the free plan. The next plan up that supports multiple domains is $19/yr and unlimited domains would be $29/mo. I had been keeping on there my side-project domains, which didn't really need a full gSuite backing them, since only a handful of emails would go in or out per month. If Migadu's were a more reasonable price, I would have shrugged and upgraded. But going fr…

Hey, also wanted to let you know that the e-mail they sent out had errors in it. According to the new pricing page (here: https://www.migadu.com/pricing/) The $9/mo plan offers unlimited domains. Definitely pricier than the previous $5/mo, but much more reasonable than $29/mo for unlimited domains. Hope this helps.

The 5-domain limit on the Micro plan is also a "soft" limit, and support has implied to me that you could negotiate something that works for you if need be.

Re: Degoogle: Cutting Google out of your life

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Post by shivenigma » Fri, Aug 28, 2020, 1:55 PM UTC

I am not really married to google but I am not sure if it really pays the effort of moving my google account to a different provider.

I know that my data is used to make me an advertising target, I am going to get advertising anyway because we haven't found a better business models yet.

I don't use google search and chrome. But not sure if I will be able to switch to another email provider and will be able to spend the time and energy required to update my email everywhere.