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Fortnite for Android just got axed from the Google Play Store too https://techcrunch.com/2020/08/13/fortnite-android-google-ki... Oops! Apple Bad, Google Good? ;)
Apple sort of ok, Google worse, Epic worst. You guys should don't seem to understand what kind of companies these three are.
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Even worse. Imagine if the World Wide Web was not open and you had to go through a closed WWW like AOL and websites were "under review" by the providers and would take a 30% cut of your revenues or clicks on your web app or subscription service and websites require going only through that provider. Thank goodness that wasn't the case.
I think you're onto something. Why is it that anyone can write a program for PC, but we failed to prevent a system from rising up that wouldn't let us do the same on mobile.
Instead, Apple invented a new computing platform and a new model to pay for it, it just worked, people were willing to pay for that, and we liked it.
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They were expecting to get kicked out of the app store so that they could file a lawsuit and challenge the app store monopoly. How is that unclear?
app store "monopoly"? No one's forcing you to use the Apple ecosystem. it's called Android.
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I’m paid to be here, but not by Apple, that I’m aware of anyway. There is no way to stop it. Even tying a LinkedIn profile requirement like someone else mentioned isn’t an option. I’ve got thousands of accounts active on most social media platforms and discussion-based sites. Puppeteer + mobile proxies makes this simple these days and completely undetectable. I’m posting it from a setup now!
That sounds like you have a story to share. Feel like elaborating a bit?
Apologies for the extreme swearing that ensues. Wow, I would have hoped for better support from the HN community. Instead there are apologists after apologists. So what if Epic is big. Really, seriously shouldn't we have had alternative app stores available form the official ones. Why is this even a point of debate? All the time we hear stories of people one of our own getting fucked by these app stores and their lor…
Don’t force shit onto every Apple user. One app store is for security and privacy. Apple curates and that costs money. I don’t want my and my families and friend’s ios devices turning into the pile of hot garbage android devices. If you don’t like it, leave! Or make your own device to sell!
Bordering on bad faith.
Apologies for the extreme swearing that ensues. Wow, I would have hoped for better support from the HN community. Instead there are apologists after apologists. So what if Epic is big. Really, seriously shouldn't we have had alternative app stores available form the official ones. Why is this even a point of debate? All the time we hear stories of people one of our own getting fucked by these app stores and their lor…
Epic being big is possibly the only reason why they had the balls to pull the trigger on this whole thing. Can't imagine indies doing it, not enough money and power. Gotta take fights you can handle.
Apologies for the extreme swearing that ensues. Wow, I would have hoped for better support from the HN community. Instead there are apologists after apologists. So what if Epic is big. Really, seriously shouldn't we have had alternative app stores available form the official ones. Why is this even a point of debate? All the time we hear stories of people one of our own getting fucked by these app stores and their lor…
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I'm right with you. This is much worse than what Microsoft got in trouble for many years ago. They know what they're doing in wrong and I sure hope Epic gets their day in court. It's predatory and anti-consumer. Apple can eat shit.
Fortnite for Android just got axed from the Google Play Store too https://techcrunch.com/2020/08/13/fortnite-android-google-ki... Oops! Apple Bad, Google Good? ;)
You could argue about Apple's rights, or citizens' free speech rights, or consumer rights, under existing law. It would be an interesting discussion because I think it's a lot more complicated an issue that most people appreciate. But really why not talk about how we think things should work on platforms like iOS? What should the law be? What protects essential human rights, encourages creativity, and allows business…
* 30% fee if app featured by apple or install initiated from app store search
* 20% provision if user landed in app store from direct app store app link
* provide accredited 3rd payment processors (e.g. paypal, stripe). Provide them API and guidelines that they have to comply with. In app store search apps that will go through apple payment processor will have label e.g. 'fulfillment by apple' similar to what amazon uses. Such app would have fee: 15% to apple + x% whatever paypal/stripe will charge. If app installed from direct link and using 3rd party processor then 10% to apple + x% to payment processor
* remove ads inside app store - I consider them unfair or indie devs
* iOS Safari WebView that is not crippled and catches up to latest web standards (Web Notifiations, Fullscreen API on iOS, Shared Web Workers just to name a few)
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A PR stunt from Epic and everyone's falling for it.
My favourite is trying to spin two billion dollar companies fighting over percentages as some “big brother” battle. I don’t remember this part of 1984.