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Post by eloff »

miguelmota wrote: post #630
darepublic wrote: post #573

As someone of mixed ethnicity who, if I was there could easily be victimized by a senseless mob to whom I owe nothing and have committed no crime against.. yea I am not happy with how the mainstream media promotes and covers this story, downplaying the victims of the chaos and sympathizing with outpourings of anger even if illegal. To clarify, looters should not be shot, law should prevail, and the policeman involved…

It could have all been ended before the rioting started if the police officer was charged for his actions. Obviously looting is wrong but peaceful protests obviously aren't working either.

They were fired and will face the justice system, which while it normally moves slowly, will move a little faster in this case thanks to top down pressure.

I don't see how in a country with independent judiciary anything more can be done.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by annexrichmond »

baby wrote: post #649
annexrichmond wrote: post #640

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He and his colleagues were immediately fired and he has since been charged for his actions. It hasn't even been a week, what more do you want? edit: s/charged/arrested

This is a nation wide issue and has been for centuries

Isn't the racial intent a bit presumptuous at this point?

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by jameslk »

creaghpatr wrote: post #292

The White House twitter account has issued a response: https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1266367168603721728?s=... This* Tweet violated the Twitter Rules about glorifying violence. However, @Twitter has determined that it will allow terrorists, dictators, and foreign propagandists to abuse its platform. *Referring to an attached picture of a Khamenei tweet about Palestine

Where's the violence though? Or are they applying the stereotypical western misunderstanding of jihad = violence/terrorism?

https://news.gallup.com/poll/7333/jihad-holy-war-internal-sp...

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by skedaddle »

fzeroracer wrote: post #609
darepublic wrote: post #573

As someone of mixed ethnicity who, if I was there could easily be victimized by a senseless mob to whom I owe nothing and have committed no crime against.. yea I am not happy with how the mainstream media promotes and covers this story, downplaying the victims of the chaos and sympathizing with outpourings of anger even if illegal. To clarify, looters should not be shot, law should prevail, and the policeman involved…

This entire event is effectively self-defense from a community that has felt terrorized by the police for decades. It could've been easily prevented by actually arresting someone that committed abject murder, but the city and the police chose to instead defend a man who has killed multiple people in the past and got away with it scott-free. So when people feel like justice no longer exists, there should be no surpris…

Your first claim is that the entire event is community self-defense, and your last claim is that police agents are responsible for the unrest.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Post by joshuamorton »

throwawaysea wrote: post #542
tomp wrote: post #171

This is amazing news, and I hope Twitter adopts this policy for all rules violations. Much better than deleting tweet or banning accounts, this lets people decide what they want to see. (Except for obvious spammers etc. which should probably be banned.) Even better would be if there were user-configurable "lists", whereby you could decide upfront what you want / don't want to see (like many sites do right now with NS…

We can hope Twitter adopts and enforces policies equally across the board, but they won't and I don't think they can either. As an example of how they won't do so, consider that there are people literally organizing violent riots and destruction of property on Twitter right now, and they have not been banned or had their tweets/accounts hidden. Ilhan Omar's daughter was caught doing so herself, amplifying rioting sup…

> But if you're on the other side of the transgender debate

Then you follow twitter's rules on its platform. You're free to misgender people elsewhere.

Moderation, even moderation and policies you personally disagree with does not rise to the level of "editorial control" under the law.

> While hundreds of people are inciting violence and using Twitter to organize violence in Minneapolis, the company has done nothing to stop it, and yet they're willing to block Trump's tweet on the theoretical enforcement of laws against criminal rioting?

Are you certain that no tweets from protestors glorifying violence have been removed? Notably, none of the tweets you mention are condoning violence, so you're actually insisting that twitter hold $random_internet_people_on_the_whole to a higher standard than the president.

You want twitter to take "Bring milk to a protest" more seriously than "when the looting starts, the shooting starts". That's not Twitter's bias showing, that's yours. Under this interpretation, I believe twitter would also have needed to remove tweets organizing the recent Hong Kong protests. Is that what you want?

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Post by ardy42 »

Thinkx220 wrote: post #655
seaknoll wrote: post #639

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This movement is about centuries of unjustness. To me, it is appropriate that the occasional bystander and business is overlooked. That doesn't mean that if you were my sibling, or friend, or business that I wouldn't be entitled to express personal pain. But the magnitude of my pain is nothing next to the pain that's led up to this, and no it wouldn't be appropriate for it to get remotely equal attention. Sure, ideal…

Unfortunately, both you, the media, and the looters keep forgetting the events are, as you said, history.

> Unfortunately, both you, the media, and the looters keep forgetting the events are, as you said, history.

But history can be important. Literally everything that's known and has been done is now history, including recently committed crimes.

The history that we're talking about still has clearly identifiable painful consequences in present-day communities, so it's not something that can just be filed away and ignored as no longer relevant.

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Post by cde-v »

Thinkx220 wrote: post #655
seaknoll wrote: post #639

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This movement is about centuries of unjustness. To me, it is appropriate that the occasional bystander and business is overlooked. That doesn't mean that if you were my sibling, or friend, or business that I wouldn't be entitled to express personal pain. But the magnitude of my pain is nothing next to the pain that's led up to this, and no it wouldn't be appropriate for it to get remotely equal attention. Sure, ideal…

Unfortunately, both you, the media, and the looters keep forgetting the events are, as you said, history.

Until it happens again, and again, and again, and again....

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Post by misja111 »

baby wrote: post #638
darepublic wrote: post #573

As someone of mixed ethnicity who, if I was there could easily be victimized by a senseless mob to whom I owe nothing and have committed no crime against.. yea I am not happy with how the mainstream media promotes and covers this story, downplaying the victims of the chaos and sympathizing with outpourings of anger even if illegal. To clarify, looters should not be shot, law should prevail, and the policeman involved…

You are enabling a fascist government. You are complicit. This is the strategy to vilify any movements from the people: focus on how they are acting violent, when this violence is very well in proportion to the enemy’s first move.

How is looting innocent shop owners in proportion to the wrongdoings of the police force?

And if this 'an eye for an eye' philosophy is what you are promoting, how is Trump's tweet then out of place?

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Post by thejynxed »

originalvichy wrote: post #596
rayiner wrote: post #536

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seriously. Twitter and Facebook are full of liberals talking about "bringing back the guillotine" but I don't see any of that getting censored.

Be completely honest to a stranger: When you see content like you are talking about, do you report it using the websites’ tools? Please be honest.

I don't report anything except kiddie diddlers, cuz, in general, reporting is totally lame.
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