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YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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Almost no one in previous history had an ability to directly target poor, uneducated masses which their own content created in their own bedroom. Also let’s be honest - the likes of Hitler actually came from the likes of people who would tell you to stop listening to WHO advice and to go start fires in 5G towers. Don’t get me wrong, freedom of speech et. al., and we’re probably also going to get burnt by the freedom…

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Would you please stop posting ideological flamewar comments to HN? It's not what this site is for, we ban accounts that do it, and we've already had to ask you.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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Nothing emboldens racists like pointing to government oppression of their ideas. The KKK has free reign in the USA and they've experienced plummeting membership. Nothing kills bad ideas like sunlight and scrutiny, you don't need to ban it and make them martyrs.

You're saying that racism and white supremacy is declining?

That's not what I said, but it is according to empirical data. America is a long way from segregation and the LA riots.

In 1990, nearly 50% of white respondents to a survey indicated they'd oppose living in a neighborhood where half the residents were black. In 2014, under 20% would oppose it and over 80% are indifferent or would favor it.

Going back further than 1990 only serves to bolster that fact.

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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I fear there isn't "one truth" out there, despite the content providers' and fact-checkers' attempts :( The idea is: "We are the decent, good, people who know the truth. Now we control the platforms, so it's only well and good we control the information, and we tell the deplorable others what they can and can't say." Almost everyone in the history books as a horrible oppressor has told themselves that narrative. Many…

No, the idea is "there is a massive coordinated disinformation campaign designed to make the pandemic worse, what, if anything should we do to address it?" There are two obvious options (and lots of options in between). (1) Do nothing. Pros: the propaganda gets clicks, which means revenue. The armchair libertarians are happy because nation states continue to have the freedom to saturate all communication channels wit…

>'The armchair libertarians...Hayek fairy tale...'

This is noxious.

>'YouTube is part of a private company. They're under no obligation to...'

This is the free-market, libertarian position.

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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this is an excellent idea: safe mode. let people who can't decide for themselves what's safe to watch, let them watch safe mode only. everyone else, should be able to decide for themselves (opt in)

Thank you! I thought is was a good idea too :) Apparently I have hit the nerves of lots of people from my parent post and since I am and like to be publicly accessible, people who disliked my thoughts have really let me know what they think of me and where I belong :D I am noticing, increasingly in the country I live in - the U.S., an extremely concerning attitude towards love for censorship. More concerning is that…

You've been posting substantially the same comments many times. That's not cool, and we ban accounts that keep doing this.

Please don't post any more duplicate content to HN. It adds noise.

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This is how all news media operated before the internet created mouthpieces for non-professionals. In addition to suppressing some inconvenient truths they filtered out crackpot ideas that have become a plague in modern times.

What exactly qualifies someone to be a "professional" who is allowed to speak? The vast majority of content I watch on Youtube is produced by independent creators covering a variety of topics with much more detail, expertise, and truth than any mainstream program.

That description is far from universal, and it’s trivial to find plenty of obviously terrible videos with millions of hits.

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So if you made a video a few weeks ago recommending people wear masks then your video would be banned.

No, because while the CDC did incorrectly dismiss the value of masks and recommended that people focus on hand washing and distancing, they never said you must not wear a mask.

IIRC they said you shouldn’t wear a mask because you are probably doing it wrong and increasing the chance of touching your face.

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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The road to hell is paved with good intentions. WHO is a political organization with medical leanings just like Fox News is an entertainment channel that covers newslike topics. Yes, there's a lot of information out there about SARS-COV2 and COVID-19 infections out there that are downright misleading at best and life threatening at worst. No, censoring that content including videos is NOT the role of a hosting platfo…

> WHO is a political organization You're delusional, and you're infected with propaganda already. Full stop.

Personal attacks aren't allowed, regardless of how wrong another commenter is or you feel they are. Please don't post like this to HN.

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> The majority of WHO controversies are made up, the WHO are not a political entity so they do not want to comment at all on political issues; and whatever you want to say about Taiwan it is a very heated political situation. They make overt political statements all the time. For one: calling Taiwan racist when it took issue with the WHO’s inaction after their attempts to disseminate health information. Then Tedros c…

Please don't twist the situation. The Head of the WHO was attacked by racist trolls who were outwardly Taiwanese; for excluding Taiwan from membership (like _all_ U.N. projects do), And he commented about the abuse. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/04/taiwan-who-tedro...

Yeah so if he thinks Taiwan is part of china why doesn’t he blame china? They are being pretty racist towards Africans right now.

The head of WHO is corrupt.

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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>(Particularly this hammering that these are contrived examples is bordering on the ridiculous: we know this is true!) I'm just going to note you agree that these examples are contrived yet nevertheless want to debate them, apparently to performatively exhibit your appreciation for the values open-mindedness and free speech. That's a not a constructive use of anybody's time. It's a frivolous distraction. Youtube is d…

> Youtube is doing what they can to save lives by stopping misinformation... I'm shocked that anyone would believe that this is an honest framing of YouTube's motivation.

What do you think their real motivation is? Take advantage of this event to take their place as the Ministry of Truth and censor their way into being at the top of the New World Order? Or maybe they really just weren't happy with airing content at their scale that's practically guaranteed to help cause a lot of people to hurt themselves. (Or they think their advertisers aren't happy with doing that... which I think is pretty equivalent, because it involves people feeling the same thing leading to the same result.)
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