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Post by kop316 »

lonelappde wrote: post #530
kop316 wrote: post #292

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Nope! https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2018/04/11...

That's for removing a sticker . Not for removing a whole module or messing with wiring.

The law quoted states a manufacturer cannot invoke a void warrenty for modifications unrelated to the warrenty claim. For example, if I replace the radio in my car, the manufacturer cannot said i voided my warrenty if the engine has problems (unless the modification did damage it).

So I would argue yes, if i disable the radios and something unrelated is damaged, then the warranty is still valid.

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Post by unwiredben »

WrtCdEvrydy wrote: post #482
phs318u wrote: post #417

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No wonder that even when it’s explained to them, people just shrug their shoulders. If the alternative is to go full guerilla war against your own [0] appliances, no wonder many people just give up. [0] I expect any day now we’ll get “subscription TVs” (as in, the actual hardware). We’re already there with headphones. https://www.channelnews.com.au/nuraphone-launch-subscription...

Roku does it now... you have to register the 'Roku TV' before using it (even if it's not network connected). TV generates a code, punch it into their network, get counter code. I can totally see a month to month plan for getting a TV (the 50" is $260, so you could do a $20/month and come out ahead after the first year).

No, when setting up the TV, if you choose not to have a network connection, there is no need to link. There wouldn't be a way to link, as the TV can't reach the Roku servers.

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Post by jjgreen »

AngryData wrote: post #599
maksimum wrote: post #478

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> We've lost this battle. I think you could look at the battle/war from a different perspectives, and come up with different conclusions. In the mainstream (whatever that is?) it appears that convenience wins. And hardware/software vendors seem to make the assumption that customers won't complain if their data is harvested. I think that's where you're coming from? On the (privacy) enthusiast things, the horizon looks…

As someone who held out on smart phones until 2 months ago, nah, not having a smart phone isn't an option any more. Many jobs, even if not explicitly, require you to have a smart phone. Otherwise you can't read or see what your boss sends, you can't use their dumbass apps, you can't take and send pictures of customer complaints or problems, and ive even found places that requires you to have a smart phone just to sig…

Being looked down on by someone who voluntarily carries a state-approved surveillance appliance, I can live with that.

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Post by webninja »

notduncansmith wrote: post #306

It’s hard to believe Samsung has any customers outside of their Korean hegemony. Samsung hasn’t proven themselves as a trustworthy smart electronics vendor in the past, be it smart TV, smart watch, or smart phone: 2015 - https://www.cnet.com/news/samsung-changes-smarttv-privacy-po... 2015 - https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/06/new-e... 2015 - https://www.cnet.com/news/samsung-lg-smartwatches-yield-p…

What’s a better company to buy from? Samsung is the only company getting brand recognition in your post.

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Post by headbansown »

Scoundreller wrote: post #328
Crosseye_Jack wrote: post #322

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But that $25 is if every module is activated. If the Customer connects the TV to their own network anyway then you just cancel (if even activated anyway) the data plan for that TV. My argument is more that from a cost point of view we are pretty much at the point it could be done, Not that I think it will happen any time soon (Reg's about data collection around the world are beginning to tighten up, personally I thin…

Sounds like the trick will be to convince my TV that I’m in EU.

You should only have to convince it that you're an EU national.

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Post by nabergh »

o-__-o wrote: post #87
globular-toast wrote: post #79

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I might be in the market for a large screen soon. Any recommendations for good dumb panels? I assumed they'd be difficult to find.

Walmart Online is selling a Spectre dumb panel (with good specs!) for $219 for 55” and $279 for 65”. Otherwise I love my LG OLED, which acts as a dumb panel until you accept the overbearing privacy policy (you can still play local DLNA/USB sources without accepting, but can’t run any apps including web browsers so no captive portals)

The brand name is actually Sceptre, for those who are searching for it.

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Post by Dunedan »

sudosysgen wrote: post #657
Dunedan wrote: post #412

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Well, you can, but only 2G dumb phones. So they'll stop working wherever 2G networks get shut off for good. If you want a more future-proof 4G phone, even the "dumb" phones are actually pretty smart. Most of them come with Linux-based KaiOS [1] which even includes an app store out of the box. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KaiOS

Nope, you can buy LTE capable dumb phones. My local Walmart has them.

Can you please provide some more information regarding these phones? I skimmed through Walmart's online store, but couldn't find any dumb 4G phones there. I'd be really interested to learn if they sell 4G capable feature phones not running KaiOS.

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Post by beerandt »

Phylter wrote: post #419
buddylw wrote: post #165

I'm getting ready to go full Battlestar Galactica in all of my appliances. It's now difficult to find high end washers and ovens without these features. At least right now we can choose not to connect the devices, but what happens if iot LTE connections get cheap enough that the choice is removed altogether, like with Tesla and other high end modern cars? I don't think I'm just being a Luddite. This really seems like…

Something I was impressed with recently is LG and their opt in collection policies. I was able to not opt in to most of their advertising and data collection policies and only the features that required that data collection were disabled, everything else worked fine. Samsung isn't like this and I just keep my Samsung "Smart" TVs off the network. I have a Roku (just slightly better) that handles the smart part.

I thought LG got busted ignoring these preferences on TVs...

I know they didn't offer a way to turn off in-UI advertising.

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Post by codedokode »

big_chungus wrote: post #659
misnome wrote: post #607

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Tell that to the US and US tax laws

Those are enforceable via extradition treaty because tax evasion is a crime in every nation in the world; if you want to extradite someone, the act in question must usually be a crime in both nations. The GDPR imposes regulations which have not parallels in other nations, so extradition is not an option. The Europeans are, however, free to arrest those who enter their nations, so it's still worth following for most p…

In case with Samsung, EU authorities can forbid selling their products in EU.

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Post by walleeee »

ssss11 wrote: post #509

To those in this thread denouncing these dystopian times my question to you is, how do we as technologists create a meaningful and successful career changing this? I’ve been against this for a very long time and can’t see any easy way to contribute (and also provide $ for my family) short of being in government policy making or law making which would require substantial career changes and further education and then s…

> To those in this thread denouncing these dystopian times my question to you is, how do we as technologists create a meaningful and successful career changing this?

Disclaimer: I don't mean to criticize you, just to critique the mode of thought expressed in your comment.

Why are we as technologists so rarely willing to entertain the idea that meaningful change (in this and other socio-political domains) and "career success" might be mutually exclusive? At best they tend to be orthogonal, I think. Very rarely are they tightly coupled. More often one arrives at work that leads to "success" as conventionally defined (i.e., high pay, job security, nice benefits, social status) by embracing preexisting ways of thinking and living: that is, by embracing convention.

Convention is precisely what needs to be challenged, if one wants to effectively resist social inertia in contexts like this.

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