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Chrome 69: “www.” subdomain missing from URL

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Re: Chrome 69: “www.” subdomain missing from URL

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post #582

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We might even call it "favicon", for the fun of it… :-)

Not sure if serious, but no. Anyone can copy a favicon; the point of an identicon is that it's generated from the domain name, so subverting it would require an attacker to find a hash collision with a visually similar domain.

if you could identify the site as a trademark holders place of business, surely, the Favicon could be stored encrypted as SVG with the browser application distribution?

Re: Chrome 69: “www.” subdomain missing from URL

#662
I don’t understand the war on URLs. I can’t even edit the link a bookmark uses in some browsers now, which is infuriating for SharePoint or other sites where “currently displayed URL” is not a clean and canonical URL (even though one exists). And when the terrible random URL jumble currently in the address bar won’t even reproduce the page correctly later, this ceases to be a bookmark.

URLs may be weird but they are not so complex that we need these games.

Re: Chrome 69: “www.” subdomain missing from URL

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post #311

I hope people start moving from chrome to firefox. The standards they pushing are harming the web in ways.

i use Firefox @ work and @home for serious stuff. The only reason i don't use Firefox 100% is due to the Android app which is a lag fest. Mozilla needs to put more resources on Android.

Whatever lag FF has is negated 10-fold over Chrome if you install uBlock Origin since there's no more tracking or ads. I can't even imagine going back to mobile Chrome or Safari, I'd rather go back to a basic phone.

Re: Chrome 69: “www.” subdomain missing from URL

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post #102

Looks like this is intentional. To change it back go to chrome://flags/#omnibox-ui-hide-steady-state-url-scheme-and-subdomains and disable the setting.

Additionally, if this flag ever goes away, the "kFormatUrlOmitTrivialSubdomains" is the internal flag for this, it seems[1], though its description says it's "Not in kFormatUrlOmitDefaults"[2]. Back when they removed the "http:" off of URLs, I used to use a hex editor to turn the kFormatUrlOmitHTTP bit flag off every time I got a new build, so I'd get the URL formatting I wanted, but eventually lost the mental wherew…

but eventually lost the mental wherewithal to continue the hack every week.

That's when you automate it as part of your "set up my environment exactly the way I like it" scripts ;-)

Re: Chrome 69: “www.” subdomain missing from URL

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post #102

Looks like this is intentional. To change it back go to chrome://flags/#omnibox-ui-hide-steady-state-url-scheme-and-subdomains and disable the setting.

Additionally, if this flag ever goes away, the "kFormatUrlOmitTrivialSubdomains" is the internal flag for this, it seems[1], though its description says it's "Not in kFormatUrlOmitDefaults"[2]. Back when they removed the "http:" off of URLs, I used to use a hex editor to turn the kFormatUrlOmitHTTP bit flag off every time I got a new build, so I'd get the URL formatting I wanted, but eventually lost the mental wherew…

I have wanted to figure out for ages how to compute the location of these types of flags/vars in binary files.

Incidentally I want to figure out how to do this on Linux.

I presume I need debug symbol files, which I can download easily.

How would I do this?

Re: Chrome 69: “www.” subdomain missing from URL

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I'm in the opposite boat from you. Firefox on Android is nice, especially thanks to being able to install an ad blocker. Firefox on my desktop literally brings my entire machine to its knees, and destroys performance in all other apps that are open. Pulling that off while not even getting close to maxing out the CPU is rather impressive. :/

Same here. FB chokes FF every other time I open it. My CPU and RAM consumption spikes. I have to close FF and reopen. Sometimes that doesn't work either. It's annoying and frustrating.

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Re: Chrome 69: “www.” subdomain missing from URL

#667

Considering a subdomain "trivial" is ridiculous... there's a difference between "www.example.com" and "example.com". Not only can they serve different sites, they can even have different DNS records! It seems that "m." is also considered a trivial subdomain. So when a user clicks a link to a "m.facebook.com" uri, they'll be confused why FB looks different when the browser reports it's on "facebook.com". I sincerely h…

Oh come on. "www." was used as a way of delineating what was a web address. Hence the fashion of putting that there so people knew you had to do it in the browser. Before then people used to also put the " http://" on there, and the combination of the two on vehicles/signs was ridiculous. We're now in a web world. People know what a URL is. "domain.com" isn't ambiguous, it's obvious to man, beast or child that you ty…

> "domain.com" isn't ambiguous

But that's because it's .com. Now, there are too many gTLDs, and companies will build their brand around their use of .io, .me, .cs, .es, etc. Just the other day I saw a link that caught my eye to studio.zeldman, and I had to take a moment to hover over the link to see if that was some new branded gTLD.

Re: Chrome 69: “www.” subdomain missing from URL

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If you care about usability this is clearly an improvement. The cost/benefit doesn't work out. It's a usability improvement, but it comes with a huge cost, where many, many sites have the fundamental function of a URL -- that of an address/specifier across the internet -- basically broken. The person who implemented this change either didn't work out the cost, or decided they didn't care. Everyone is hyperventilating…

> How would you feel if your phone started to change the telephone number it dialed? If they replaced the country code with a flag, that would be an improvement. If they replaced the carrier number with the logo of the company that's also not bad. These are UI changes and the one you proposed about the phone numbers are great :)

If they replaced the country code with a flag, that would be an improvement. If they replaced the carrier number with the logo of the company that's also not bad. These are UI changes and the one you proposed about the phone numbers are great :)

If I were to propose a change, it would be 1-to-1. What happened in Chrome 69 isn't one to one. It's a surjection, which broke lots of URLs. That's the difference between a great UI change and an inconsiderate, idiotic one.

Re: Chrome 69: “www.” subdomain missing from URL

#669
If I was designing the user experience for accessing content from a global information, entertainment, and commerce network that would be used by a large, global, non-technical user base, I would not use the current URL format.

I would wager the twelve character prefix "https://www."would make no sense to 99.9% of the users and should be the default for over 99.9% of requests they would be making any given day.

I am guessing Google has evidence that this is the case.

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