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Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by killjoywashere »

csomar wrote: post #178

Am I the only one that sees OS X as the biggest reason to switch to Mac? I mean Windows is good, but nowhere good as OS X. And please, don't tell me Ubuntu or other linux flavors. They look good (and are good if you are programming on them) but the UX is still lacking a lot. (Never mind the confusion of the different flavors, packaging systems, and configurations). Also god forbid you have a problem (especially a har…

People really need to start understanding that there's a hard choice to make between thin/light, battery life, and power. You can't have all three in the same package. The laws of physics prohibit it.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by joshstrange »

issa wrote: post #318
Eun wrote: post #222

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Window management in OSX is horrible. Finder is even more horrible. It reminds me of the Windows 95 Explorer. A network drive hangs? Good luck with Finder..., the whole system halts.

My number one complaint about OSX is also window management. I've never found anything comparable to the way Windows 7 let you use the left/right arrows to line up windows on half the screen. That is the only thing I miss about Windows, but it's a pretty big one. Also, when dis/connecting monitors on OSX, windows often get lost. ps- if anyone has any suggestions or recommendations, I'd love to hear them!

Hyperdock, yes it's a paid app but it allows for what you want along with my favorite gesture of swipe up/scroll up while hovering over an application's titlebar to take it full screen. There may be free options out there but I've have hyperdock for years. It also gives you dock previews when you hover like Win7.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by city41 »

yokohummer7 wrote: post #253
Keyframe wrote: post #238

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From my perspective: If MacOS had: up-to-date OpenGL support, Nvidia made drivers that supported new cards for it, was not locked into Mac hardware - that would be tremendous. On the other hand, if Windows had a proper shell and cli tools, like cygwin with zsh, but native and not Ubuntu layer inside - that would be tremendous. If Linux, any desktop variant (Fedora my poison), had Adobe's support for their DCC apps an…

> On the other hand, if Windows had a proper shell and cli tools, like cygwin with zsh, but native and not Ubuntu layer inside - that would be tremendous. It is PowerShell, and it really is. Until recently I thought Windows had poor CLI support, and I discovered PowerShell and now I favor it even more than bash. Am I crazy? Possibly, but PowerShell is truly a piece of gem in the CLI history. It is a thoughtfully craf…

But powershell is an all or nothing proposition. At my job, the majority use OSX. I use Linux. Since we all use bash, there's very little friction here. I can't "just use powershell" in this scenario at all.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by stevejb »

csomar wrote: post #178

Am I the only one that sees OS X as the biggest reason to switch to Mac? I mean Windows is good, but nowhere good as OS X. And please, don't tell me Ubuntu or other linux flavors. They look good (and are good if you are programming on them) but the UX is still lacking a lot. (Never mind the confusion of the different flavors, packaging systems, and configurations). Also god forbid you have a problem (especially a har…

> And please, don't tell me Ubuntu or other linux flavors.

Well, you seem to have isolated yourself from counterargument. I was given an 2016 Macbook Pro from work. My normal dev workstation is Ubuntu 16.10. I do truly prefer Ubuntu to OSX. I like the customisation, and even the default look and feel of Ubuntu just works better for me.

Also, as a developer doing mostly Haskell and Python, derping with Elm, rendering documents with Pandoc + LaTeX, all of my tools are perfectly at home on Linux. Everything works with OSX too, but it is usually a bit easier to get things working. I prefer apt to brew. I don't know what else there is to say, but here is a counter argument. If OSX and Ubuntu were both for-pay products and cost the same, I would pick Ubuntu.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by willtim »

TheAdamAndChe wrote: post #648
nemothekid wrote: post #625

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>Of course, if you are specifically looking for consumer tech, ease of use and support, then open source probably isn't for you. If you can look past your smugness a bit, why? Why is it that if I want "ease of use", open source isn't for me? Do you not see the problem here? I can't see how you can argue your favorite projects are more "innovative & stable than anything Apple have ever produced", but in the same breat…

Don't listen to him, there are open source UIs that are easy to use. Gnome, KDE, and XFCE all behave pretty darn well and are pretty stable. i3wm, the window manager the post above is talking about, is incredibly complicated, but provides efficiency and a sense of accomplishment when learned. That reward from learning something complicated is where the smugness of most open source enthusiasts comes from. Don't look t…

Any perceived smugness on my part was a response to baiting from the parent such as "It's kinda sad nobody can compete with Apple".

Open-source can compete on many fronts and offers many other advantages (i.e. freedom), but on a pure ease-of-use assessment, I do not agree with you that Gnome or KDE could sway the parent, if Ubuntu completely failed to do so.

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Post by theodorton »

wishinghand wrote: post #563
skummetmaelk wrote: post #457

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>Here are things that I'd pay $1,000 on top of the current Macbook Pro model: >- Thiner/Lighter >- Longer Battery Life (5+ hours) >- 32/64GB RAM These goals are diametrically opposed.

The first two points are, but not really the RAM. It's going to be an ounce at most. If they go from two 8GB sticks to two 16GB sticks, it wouldn't change size/weight at all.

Except you're not able to get LPDDR3 with more than 16GB of RAM, so you'll need more power..? I might be wrong.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by joemi »

city41 wrote: post #560
csomar wrote: post #178

Am I the only one that sees OS X as the biggest reason to switch to Mac? I mean Windows is good, but nowhere good as OS X. And please, don't tell me Ubuntu or other linux flavors. They look good (and are good if you are programming on them) but the UX is still lacking a lot. (Never mind the confusion of the different flavors, packaging systems, and configurations). Also god forbid you have a problem (especially a har…

I was a MacOS user from System 7 through to Yosemite. I now use Ubuntu 99% of the time (I still have a Mac that I casually use). IMO Ubuntu is now superior to OSX in almost every way. For me, Ubuntu really does "just work", and gives me a vastly better package manager, and the ability to use the i3 window manager, which has fundamentally changed how I use my computer. I am specifically saying "Ubuntu" and not "Linux"…

> IMO Ubuntu is now superior to OSX in almost every way.

Out of genuine curiosity, what are the ways it's not superior?

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by samet »

rlonstein wrote: post #433
issa wrote: post #318

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My number one complaint about OSX is also window management. I've never found anything comparable to the way Windows 7 let you use the left/right arrows to line up windows on half the screen. That is the only thing I miss about Windows, but it's a pretty big one. Also, when dis/connecting monitors on OSX, windows often get lost. ps- if anyone has any suggestions or recommendations, I'd love to hear them!

I've been satisfied with Moom, http://manytricks.com/moom/ .

Moom does what it does. I use it as a faceless application.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by vinceguidry »

csomar wrote: post #178

Am I the only one that sees OS X as the biggest reason to switch to Mac? I mean Windows is good, but nowhere good as OS X. And please, don't tell me Ubuntu or other linux flavors. They look good (and are good if you are programming on them) but the UX is still lacking a lot. (Never mind the confusion of the different flavors, packaging systems, and configurations). Also god forbid you have a problem (especially a har…

I primarily buy Apple for the hardware, secondarily for OSX. I used Windows for years and years, there's nothing about it I can't get used to. If MacBooks weren't so great, I'd be using ThinkBooks, they're not terrible. But MacBooks are so much better that it isn't even a close consideration.

That might be the lock-in talking, Apple would have to screw the MacBook line over as badly as they did the Mac Pro line to get me to switch.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by brazzledazzle »

mikeash wrote: post #448
valuearb wrote: post #436

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Works for me, long click, it resizes to left half horizontally, then when I release it fills vertically. On the right side is a collection of my other windows, I tap one and it fills the right side.

Alas, it's not resizing the windows, but creating some sort of new virtual desktop and sticking them in it.

That kind of turned me off buy maybe it's worth giving it another go.
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