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Re: Amazon Echo

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This "internet-of-things" trend coincides unfortunately with the "dragnet surveillance" trend. With every new product launch from a "cloud company," I increasingly feel as if I'm reading the tombstone of modern society. The selling point behind these devices is convenience, but at the cost of security. I don't think I need to explain to HN why an always-on, internet connected voice recording device is something to ke…

"Alexa, how do you make a bomb?"

That'll get you on a lost fairly quickly.

Re: Amazon Echo

#652
Everyone talks about privacy. My biggest problem is that even with those 5 or 10 functions, Alexa is still pretty much useless.

Suddenly needing to know the height of Everest while crossing the room? Yeah, that happens so much.

No, it's just that they don't have the slightest idea how to make it be useful because it only works on pattern questions like "What is the height of X ?" or "Put Y on the grocery list".

I am sure the list of allowed phrase templates is pretty limited. That's what disappoints me about Alexa, Siri, Google voice and other assistants.

Still waiting for HAL-9000 with its amazing conversation skills.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8N72t7aScY

Re: Amazon Echo

#653

This "internet-of-things" trend coincides unfortunately with the "dragnet surveillance" trend. With every new product launch from a "cloud company," I increasingly feel as if I'm reading the tombstone of modern society. The selling point behind these devices is convenience, but at the cost of security. I don't think I need to explain to HN why an always-on, internet connected voice recording device is something to ke…

>I don't think I need to explain to HN why an always-on, internet connected voice recording device is something to keep out of your house. [1]

You just described many peoples computers

Re: Amazon Echo

#654

Watch the promo video again and pretend it's the first few minutes of a horror movie. A package arrives on the front porch. The family brings it in and opens it. It's Alexa. It's "for everyone," says Father. The next few days are blissful. Alexa integrates herself into the family. She is indispensable. How did they ever get by without her? Father rushes in from the backyard, "Alexa, how tall is Mt. Everest?" Alexa an…

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Values_(The_Outer_Limi... But is role of the family dog so bad after all?

Re: Amazon Echo

#655

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are there open-source voice recognition projects in the works that could replace the likes of Google Now and the others? If not, there should be.

This is what I started thinking about as I was reading the paranoid HN comments. I believe there's open source voice recognition but the challenging part is taking commands and making them actionable.

Defining commands and their corresponding actions is something I think an open source could actually do much more effectively than companies. When everyone in the world can contribute commands rather than a single team of software devs it is possible build up a much larger collection of them. I would really like the ability to add commands to a natural language command system when a command I use doesn't work. Also, I think that a reprogramable command system would open up an interesting programming paradigm where one could define new commands and actions in terms of other commands in the system. For example,

What's new?

> Unrecognized command

When I say "What's new" read the "In the news..." section of Wikipedia's main page.

> Acknowledged.

Re: Amazon Echo

#656

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but how is this that much worse than all the other devices you use? Because the other devices I have have useful purposes besides listening to my speech for sales and advertising purposes. The Echo exists solely for that. It's all it does.

But does that matter? Just because your laptop can also play games/movies/etc. doesn't prevent the NSA or whoever else from tapping into the mic or camera.

Sure, they can. But they at least gives me a reason to own them. This has no reason for me to own besides getting spied on.

Re: Amazon Echo

#657

Watch the promo video again and pretend it's the first few minutes of a horror movie. A package arrives on the front porch. The family brings it in and opens it. It's Alexa. It's "for everyone," says Father. The next few days are blissful. Alexa integrates herself into the family. She is indispensable. How did they ever get by without her? Father rushes in from the backyard, "Alexa, how tall is Mt. Everest?" Alexa an…

Someone has been watching too much science fiction, horror, mystery shows or reading such novels. Give me one example of real life event that has semblance to what you are talking about ....

Re: Amazon Echo

#658

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no way this thing has the power to do adequate voice recognition on device for arbitray speakers and queries, even given a limited domain. It's sending everything to Amazon for processing. The only thing it probably recognizes by itself is "Alexa."

I'm guessing it's Android under the covers, and I believe that Google voice recognition is now processed on the device - so it might well be powerful enough to do the voice recognition without the cloud.

I believe it's only limited command processing, and less accurate than what can be done with more powerful computers.

Re: Amazon Echo

#659

Watch the promo video again and pretend it's the first few minutes of a horror movie. A package arrives on the front porch. The family brings it in and opens it. It's Alexa. It's "for everyone," says Father. The next few days are blissful. Alexa integrates herself into the family. She is indispensable. How did they ever get by without her? Father rushes in from the backyard, "Alexa, how tall is Mt. Everest?" Alexa an…

Funny, but please consider posting this to a blog and sharing from there. You've effectively hijacked this entire thread with a creative writing exercise.
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