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I am afraid — if Chinese models go mainstream it has a clear way of pushing its narrative way beyond its otherwise borders. More like a Trojan horse it is for the Chinese. Here is a quick example of how Chinese deepseeks agent works kn its underlying model) when asked a tough question https://x.com/jinen83/status/2079406993979383902?s=46&t=D7hQ...
https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueAnon/comments/1tybuab/people_ta...
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https://thereallo.dev/blog/claude-code-prompt-steganography Why should I trust a US company more than a Chinese one?
Agree, China believes in Climate change and are at least taking steps to address it. Personally this is making me trust them more than the USA because, facts. I mean lesser of two evils thinking, if one is intentionally leading us towards climate disaster, while the other isn't then yeah. What else can be said? Should I trust the authoritarian country who believes in engineering and science, or the one that doesn't?
I've got a bridge to sell you!
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No, he's not. He's more direct and brazen about it. But he's doing the same culling, the same political demands, same everything. Its just now in plain view rather than behind closed doors.
Exactly, people think that Biden, Obama, Bush, etc. are some sort of saints and Trump is the devil. All other presidents used to do the same things behind closed doors and Trump just doesn't care to hide it.
The 2 things people need to remember: 1) China can (and does) use the models to influence the west. They train in false information about Taiwan and Hong Kong. Or pretend like history is in favor of China. 2) Ignoring the models containing false information, they are incredible. But you should be scared of running inference via the model creators directly. If you think your data is safe compared to running it via mod…
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People absolutely use LLMs to research politically sensitive topics. I wish they wouldn’t, but people use LLMs as their general search engines now.
> People absolutely use LLMs to research politically sensitive topics. Note I used the word "seriously", I meant it in its fullest form, i.e. serious people. I'm not interested in what-if arguments based on "you can't fix stupid". Stupid people also blindly believe whatever a US LLM tells them without any form of verification, hallucinations and all. Most people on this planet would agree that a Chinese LLM is perfec…
Is academia serious enough? Well ever since LLM journals' inboxes are bombarded with submissions, and this applies across fields. Like OP said, ppl serious or not are asking LLM about any stuff, also serious or not.
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it's a real paradox, that chinese models are what guards democratization and private use of ai while us models are moted castles with "kings" crying that you are stealing their legally stolen goods... what times we are living in...
why is it a paradox? guarding their IP overseas has been the modus operandi of American software companies since their inception
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Also me, as someone who lives in Greenland, Canada, Venezuela, Cuba, Iran, etc. China is not threatening to invade, USA is.
you live in all those places??
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They can just favour some specific versions of some library that's been compromised. Unlike introducing bugs / flaws directly in the source code, they can claim plausible deniability, and it's much easier to implement without compromising the general coding capabilities of the models.
Cannot non-Chinese closed weights model do the same?
The 2 things people need to remember: 1) China can (and does) use the models to influence the west. They train in false information about Taiwan and Hong Kong. Or pretend like history is in favor of China. 2) Ignoring the models containing false information, they are incredible. But you should be scared of running inference via the model creators directly. If you think your data is safe compared to running it via mod…
It's so naive to think that US companies won't do (or aren't already doing) the exact same thing but for money.