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Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by filoeleven »

codeflo wrote: post #496
topspin wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This doesn't help when searching. I'm looking for specific things as often as I'm clicking on recommendations. What's needed is a global "Hide AI Dreck". Particularly the overwhelming hoard of AI slide-shows masquerading as reviews.

It's clear that YouTube doesn't want you to have much influence over your feed. You can't even ban specific channels from being shown to you, which would be the simplest thing to implement, and other knobs that previously existed were silently removed. Since Google does nothing that isn't based on metrics, we can deduce that they have data to show that giving people settings to focus the recommendations on what they…

> You can't even ban specific channels from being shown to you

Yes, you can. Click the video's 3-dot menu > Don't recommend channel. Though I have noticed that this only blocks them from showing up in the feed, not in the recommendations sidebar. I also have to run uBlock to hide shorts, already-watched videos, subscriber-only stuff...ain't saying the YT experience is good, not by any stretch of the imagination.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by dmos62 »

Children and seniors are victimized by AI content on a huge scale. Regular adults like most of us here don't ever get such videos in their feeds.

I saw kids spend many hours a day watching automatically generated videos. Not always AI-generated, sometimes it's AI-assisted and procedurally generated.

It is quite unbelievable how vulnerable weaker minds, for the lack of a better term, are to AI content.

I saw a group of 3-8 yo kids spend hours watching obviously procedurally generated content that is completely random and contentless: it was more about an intense rhythm, imagery of violence (animated stick figure motorcycle accidents with blood and slow-down effects at random points), a lot of movement, chaos, very short inserts of people laughing hysterically on some middle-eastern tv show and similar. Brainrot doesn't feel like hyperbole for this content.

Another time, I saw an 80 yo lady watch a doctor sit in front of the camera and speak about a health topic for 45 minutes straight. Only it's not an actual person, but a convincing AI avatar: his gestures and face match what he is saying, the voice is convincing too, but for the 45mn he doesn't make any movement that is not a gesture lastin 1-3 seconds. And his tone of voice has no variation that is longer than a few seconds either. If you fast forward, he always looks the same. It's all extremely monotonic. The lady couldn't believe that it's not a real person.

Currently, AI videos are a gold mine for black hats.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by microtonal »

darkwater wrote: post #606
microtonal wrote: post #584

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When I'm on vacation, I like making my own photos of everything, even if professional photographers have already made hundreds of far better photos of it. I have found when looking a photos from 20 years ago, I skip most of the shots of only landscapes, buildings, etc. The only interesting shots are shots with the people that I travelled with in them. They bring back all the fond memories, the things we did together,…

Totally! And as a kid of a family who mostly took pictures of the monuments and landscapes, it hurts a lot to just see 3-4 pictures with us in it out of 24 (or 25-26 if you were lucky). I still take pictures of monuments, or the sky, or the landscape nowadays with my phone, at least trying from some unusual or less common perspective, but I do take a lot of pictures of my family as well, especially in day to day mome…

And as a kid of a family who mostly took pictures of the monuments and landscapes, it hurts a lot to just see 3-4 pictures with us in it out of 24 (or 25-26 if you were lucky).

Same, we went to the US a lot when I was a teenager. I have many good/fun memories of all the places we visited together, people we met, etc. A few years ago I went through some of the photos that my parents still have with about the same ratio of pictures with us in it. Random desert shots are even more frequent than people shots :).

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by mycall »

thelucent wrote: post #337
spullara wrote: post #227

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A friend of mine who is a very non-technical dermatologist listens exclusively to Suno songs she made. All in genres and styles of songs from her era, the 80s and 90s. Who else is going to make new songs for her? New music almost always targets young people.

I did the same too. I listen exclusively to my own songs made with the help of AI. My styles are orchestra and symphony pop, which I find rare these days. Even if it exists, the lyrics might not be something that I enjoy. So I just write my own lyrics, decides on the melodies, and put it to AI to create a polished version. Do I feel emotional when I listen to it? Of course, its my own lyrics that I wrote. Of course I…

> orchestra and symphony pop

You can find a ton of this on archive.org [0]. One of my favorites is from K-Mart background vinyl. AI can't quite do this yet.

[0] https://archive.org/search?query=subject%3A%22Kmart%22&and%5...

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by filoeleven »

dalmo3 wrote: post #45
varjag wrote: post #22

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Sounds like a premium feature!

Yes, like filtering out shorts. /s

Shorts were what made me install uBlock, even though I was a paid subscriber. uBlock is so handy at removing shorts, already-watched recommendations, etc. They keep making the interface worse.

I dumped my subscription because of it. If I have to use an ad-blocker to make the site useable, and the ad-blocker already blocks the ads which was the reason I subscribed in the first place...no point in paying anymore. Fuck 'em.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by jccc »

dmos62 wrote: post #652

Children and seniors are victimized by AI content on a huge scale. Regular adults like most of us here don't ever get such videos in their feeds. I saw kids spend many hours a day watching automatically generated videos. Not always AI-generated, sometimes it's AI-assisted and procedurally generated. It is quite unbelievable how vulnerable weaker minds, for the lack of a better term, are to AI content. I saw a group o…

And unfortunately the other way around could be about as bad:

“Don’t believe what you just saw — That’s just AI propaganda!”

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by drngdds »

spullara wrote: post #227
ellrob88 wrote: post #139

Curious to see if this will apply to music. YouTube seems to be filled with AI music these days - just do a search for "focus music" or the like, and you'll see creators pushing new 1-hr tracks every few days with no mention of where the music came from or the fact it is AI generated. People praising it in the comments seem none the wiser (or perhaps they're also bots).

A friend of mine who is a very non-technical dermatologist listens exclusively to Suno songs she made. All in genres and styles of songs from her era, the 80s and 90s. Who else is going to make new songs for her? New music almost always targets young people.

>Who else is going to make new songs for her?

Lots of artists! They are not even remotely hard to find. They are literally a google search away. Typing stuff into Suno because you can't be bothered to search "new artists that sound 90s" is crazy

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Post by hununu »

codeflo wrote: post #491
injidup wrote: post #474

Last weekend a group of friends and I sat by the lake. One had a guitar, and we were all singing off-key to old classics and dancing to salsa and reggaeton. We were doing it together, and it was great. Much more fun than listening alone or caring about the authenticity of the music or not. It was the participation, not the product, that was the key. Something went wrong with music and culture in recent times. Partici…

> If AI music allows someone with less formal musical skills to feel like they are joining in and making something, then maybe it has its value. An emphatic no. What we need to do is to stop comparing every hobby performance, whether it's music or dancing, with the top 10 artists in their field. We need people to learn, and try, and feel safe to be visible and thus vulnerable in group situations without fear of being…

This is really hard these days because up and coming artists can only do so nowadays via social media. In practical terms it means musicians if they want to succeed they need to be good at music AND self promotion through social media.

While theoretically access to everyone has been democratized when compared to music labels of the past since everyone can put their music on Spotify and social media, effectively that also means social media is now a required skill besides musicianship.

It's harder than ever to create your own thing and stay on track. I think this is why so many people are going bonkers with angine de poitrine for example.

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